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4 Reasons Why Teams Do Not Call Up Everyone On September 1st

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On Monday, we saw the addition of Blake Parker to the Cubs roster, putting them at 26. As you know as of September 1st, teams are allowed to recall their full 40 man roster if they would like, but no one does. Why? Let’s talk about that.

Let me begin by saying that I think the expanded roster rule is stupid and should be done away with. Now that my feelings on that are out of the way, why don’t teams call up their full allotment of players? There are a few reasons why.

1. Injuries – If you look at the current Cubs 40 man roster, you’ll see that Edwin Jackson is on the DL (thank God), as is Justin Ruggiano and Ryan Sweeney. Because they were placed on the 15 day DL, they still have a spot on the 40 man roster, which means the Cubs would not be able to field a full 40 guys just yet. Any player with a big league contract must be on the 40 man roster unless he was designated for assignment and cleared irrevocable waivers for the purpose of being removed. At that point, he can be moved to the minors, assuming he doesn’t refuse the assignment.

2. Service Time – We hear this one a lot, especially when it comes to early season call ups. In fact, we’ll probably see it come into play at the beginning of the season in 2015 with Kris Bryant. The way the current salary structure works, players are under a team’s control for the first six years of their Major League career, with a service year considered to be 172 days. When a player is recalled, it starts that clock and given that teams are so concerned about paying out big deals before they have to, there are a lot of games that are played. To get a player up in September just for the sake of a few at bats is a waste of service time.

3. Playing Time – With that many guys on the roster, it’s near impossible to give everyone enough playing time, which is related to service time. If you’re going to call a guy up and have the meter running for service time, you want to be able to play him, especially if he’s part of your future. When you call up someone like Javier Baez or Jorge Soler, you want to make sure you have the ability to get them the playing time they need. The same goes for the middle of the season. If you call someone up to play, someone has to sit. You want to make sure guys have at bats or innings available to them or you’re just wasting time.

4. Per Diem Costs – This is a reason that often goes over looked. In baseball, players receive a per diem stipend in addition to their usual salary. This is designed for meals and things like that when the team is on the road. When you call a guy up, he gets that money. It may not seem like a big deal, but it’s an added costs for a team in addition to the travel expenses that are pointless for a guy to get 5-10 plate appearances. They can simply cut that cost and use one of the other reasons as the explanation.

  • HLCBSL691

    Per Deim? Really? A player on the MLB roster for a whole season gets 10k in Per Deim. Per Deim is half a million for the entire season. Drop in the bucket when you’ve got an 8 or 9 figure payroll.

    • That’s a lot of foot-longs.

      • HLCBSL691

        At $85 a day, at $5 before tax, that would be 16 foot longs after tax.

      • AC0000000

        At $85 a day, at $5 before tax, that would be 16 foot longs after tax.

  • AC0000000

    Per Deim? Really? A player on the MLB roster for a whole season gets 10k in Per Deim. Per Deim is half a million for the entire season. Drop in the bucket when you’ve got an 8 or 9 figure payroll.

  • stop2wonder

    #5. Reward performance: You shouldn’t just call up a player simply because you can, you should only reward players with good seasons in the minors.

  • $28895381

    #5. Reward performance: You shouldn’t just call up a player simply because you can, you should only reward players with good seasons in the minors.

  • Doug S.

    If the triple A team is in the playoffs, would that be another reason not to call some guys up?

    • HLCBSL691

      I think it would only be a factor if the MLB team was not in a playoff chase.

  • Doug S.

    If the triple A team is in the playoffs, would that be another reason not to call some guys up?

    • AC0000000

      I think it would only be a factor if the MLB team was not in a playoff chase.

  • Dork

    I have an ask Joe question – or anyone really. Baez developement. Do you see Baez starting next year in Iowa like Anthony Rizzo did in his developement process? I see some similarities going on with this.

    • HLCBSL691

      I think he will if for nothing more than the service time game. Him and Alcantara.

    • Javy is going to spend a month hitting bombs off of fringe major-leaguers. He’ll start at 2nd next year.

  • Dork

    I have an ask Joe question – or anyone really. Baez developement. Do you see Baez starting next year in Iowa like Anthony Rizzo did in his developement process? I see some similarities going on with this.

    • AC0000000

      I think he will if for nothing more than the service time game. Him and Alcantara.

  • HLCBSL691

    How about when you’re owned by MLB and you’re in a playoff chase and you’re not allowed to call anyone up because they can’t afford the costs of the extra players when the reality is it’s a conflict of interest.

    • Dork

      I wish I understood what you are trying to say

      • Eddie Von White

        Be careful what you wish for.

      • HLCBSL691

        See Expos, Montreal, 2003

      • Yeah, Dork. See that obscure reference from eleven years ago and check back in with us.

      • HLCBSL691

        Montreal was owned by MLB in 2003. They were leading the wild card chase on sept 1 when rosters expanded and mlb said they would not be allowed to call anyone up

      • Dork

        Which team does MLB own now?

      • Seymour Butts

        The Punxsutawney Phils.

      • Mark_from_Toronto

        Not to be confused with their Canadian counterparts, the Wiarton Willies.

      • ~never forget~

      • Jerry in Wisconsin

        Let’s see he roots for the Bruins, Packers and Expos. Which city is CAPS From?

      • HLCBSL691

        I don’t give 2 damns about them. Just pointing out what happened.

      • Frankly, Jerry….he doesn’t give two damns.

      • HLCBSL691

        If this was the Cubs who had these restrictions, no one would forget.

      • Jerry in Wisconsin

        Is that another reference from some long forgotten thing?

      • HLCBSL691

        Nope.

      • Frankly.

      • HLCBSL691

        Speaking of the Expos, I met someone on the T yesterday who was wearing an Expos hat. Said he was from Montreal and brought up 2003. I asked him if he knew about MLB not letting them call anyone up, he said no. I explained what he happened and he got pissed.

      • AC0000000

        See Expos, Montreal, 2003

      • Yeah, Dork. See that obscure reference from eleven years ago and check back in with us.

      • AC0000000

        Montreal was owned by MLB in 2003. They were leading the wild card chase on sept 1 when rosters expanded and mlb said they would not be allowed to call anyone up

      • Dork

        Which team does MLB own now?

      • Seymour Butts

        The Punxsutawney Phils.

      • Mark_from_Toronto

        Not to be confused with their Canadian counterparts, the Wiarton Willies.

      • ~never forget~

      • Jerry in Wisconsin

        Let’s see he roots for the Bruins, Packers and Expos. Which city is CAPS From?

      • AC0000000

        I don’t give 2 damns about them. Just pointing out what happened.

      • Frankly, Jerry….he doesn’t give two damns.

      • AC0000000

        If this was the Cubs who had these restrictions, no one would forget.

      • Jerry in Wisconsin

        Is that another reference from some long forgotten thing?

      • AC0000000

        Nope.

      • Frankly.

      • AC0000000

        Speaking of the Expos, I met someone on the T yesterday who was wearing an Expos hat. Said he was from Montreal and brought up 2003. I asked him if he knew about MLB not letting them call anyone up, he said no. I explained what happened and he got pissed.

    • Jedi

      How about Old Fungus Foot McGraw and his double-play comrade Bug Eye Stevens. That tandem could’ve helped the Detroit Wolverines during the critical race in ’86 against the “Trash.” But they were both Haymarket Riot sympathizers and as such their boss, the infamous Bartholomew P. Mittens (a huge fan of the Sox – ulterior motives for sure!) wouldn’t let them out of their contracts. Normally, farmhands were afforded the opportunity to play baseball during the summer for any team, rejoining the farm for duties during harvesting season. But as we all know, Old Barty Mittens was having none of that…what could’ve been.

      • Doc Raker

        1886.

  • AC0000000

    How about when you’re owned by MLB and you’re in a playoff chase and you’re not allowed to call anyone up because they can’t afford the costs of the extra players when the reality is it’s a conflict of interest.

    • Jedi

      How about Old Fungus Foot McGraw and his double-play comrade Bug Eye Stevens. That tandem could’ve helped the Detroit Wolverines during the critical race in ’86 against the “Trash.” But they were both Haymarket Riot sympathizers and as such their boss, the infamous Bartholomew P. Mittens (a huge fan of the Sox – ulterior motives for sure!) wouldn’t let them out of their contracts. Normally, farmhands were afforded the opportunity to play baseball during the summer for any team, rejoining the farm for duties during harvesting season. But as we all know, Old Barty Mittens was having none of that…what could’ve been.

      • Doc Raker

        1886.

  • Jedi

    #5; All of your batch-cook recipes are designed for no more than 30 players.

  • Jedi

    #5; All of your batch-cook recipes are designed for no more than 30 players.

  • Doc Raker

    Has anyone ever been called up from Fantasy Camp? MLB should allow a 41 man roster and that 41st spot has to be a Fantasy Camper. The Camper would pay $100,000 to travel with the team and get a certain number of at bats and innings played on D during the month of September. Maybe the team could auction off the spot, think of the possible revenue a team could generate.

    • Seymour Butts

      It’s been done. Remember AAAron Miles?

      • Good old AAAron. Fielded like a pitch-back screen, hit like a sideways pitch-back screen.

      • Doc Raker

        AAAron Miles wouldn’t even be one of the better players at camp. Don’t you think there are some guys that would pay $100,000 to be a Cub for a month?

      • Probably. Some guys will dole out like $8 for a sandwich.

      • HLCBSL691

        Made with yoga mat bread

      • I would pay $100,000 to be a Cub for a month.

      • Seymour Butts

        What would you do for a month FOR $100,000?

      • Heh.

  • Doc Raker

    Has anyone ever been called up from Fantasy Camp? MLB should allow a 41 man roster and that 41st spot has to be a Fantasy Camper. The Camper would pay $100,000 to travel with the team and get a certain number of at bats and innings played on D during the month of September. Maybe the team could auction off the spot, think of the possible revenue a team could generate.

    • Seymour Butts

      It’s been done. Remember AAAron Miles?

      • Good old AAAron. Fielded like a pitch-back screen, hit like a sideways pitch-back screen.

      • Doc Raker

        AAAron Miles wouldn’t even be one of the better players at camp. Don’t you think there are some guys that would pay $100,000 to be a Cub for a month?

      • Probably. Some guys will dole out like $8 for a sandwich.

      • AC0000000

        Made with yoga mat bread

      • I would pay $100,000 to be a Cub for a month.

      • Seymour Butts

        What would you do for a month FOR $100,000?

      • Heh.

  • John

    …I bring up a point that is lost on many fans and one that I am sure these new Cub kids have no idea is ahead of them.
    First of all, I am convinced this group upcoming soon will win a World Series for the Cubs. Like them or not for giving us almost 300 losses the last 3 years, Epstein and Hoyer have built an impressive future.
    These new Cub kids even if never any of them making the HOF will have attained something they have no way of preparing for…..
    Legendary Status
    …which also explains why there really is only one baseball team relevant in Chicago, I’ll tell you why…….the WS trolls will love this:

    The 1985 Bears team is still to this day revered…
    Same goes for the Bulls championship teams…
    Today’s Blackhawks…..

    Everyone in Chicago can name at least 5 players from those rosters but the one thing no one can do?…

    • HLCBSL691

      This town acts like the 85 Bears won 10 Super Bowls
      Michael Jeffery Jordan: The best there ever was. The best there ever will be.
      Fuck the Hawks

  • John

    …I bring up a point that is lost on many fans and one that I am sure these new Cub kids have no idea is ahead of them.
    First of all, I am convinced this group upcoming soon will win a World Series for the Cubs. Like them or not for giving us almost 300 losses the last 3 years, Epstein and Hoyer have built an impressive future.
    These new Cub kids even if never any of them making the HOF will have attained something they have no way of preparing for…..
    Legendary Status
    …which also explains why there really is only one baseball team relevant in Chicago, I’ll tell you why…….the WS trolls will love this:

    The 1985 Bears team is still to this day revered…
    Same goes for the Bulls championship teams…
    Today’s Blackhawks…..

    Everyone in Chicago can name at least 5 players from those rosters but the one thing no one can do?…

    • AC0000000

      This town acts like the 85 Bears won 10 Super Bowls
      Michael Jeffery Jordan: The best there ever was. The best there ever will be.
      Fuck the Hawks

  • John

    No one can remember 5 players from the 2005 WSox

    • HLCBSL691

      Buerhle, Contreras, Garland, Garcia, Jenks, Konerko, Pierzynski

      • Guest

        Glad you looked it up to be sure you spelled their names correctly………..troll

      • HLCBSL691

        You must be new here. I absolutely hate the White Sox. I don’t even call them the White Sox. I call them the trash.

        Also, it’s easy to name 5+ players from that team, because Buerhle is a village idiot, White Sox fans were laughing non-stop about the Cubs trading Garland to them for Matt Karchner in 1998, Bobby Jenks is a dumbass, Konerko is retiring after this year, Garcia is one of Ozzie’s amigos, and everyone hates Pierzynski

      • Joe Aiello

        Someone learned to Google.

      • HLCBSL691

        I think someone didn’t read the post above

  • John

    No one can remember 5 players from the 2005 WSox

    • AC0000000

      Buerhle, Contreras, Garland, Garcia, Jenks, Konerko, Pierzynski

      • Guest

        Glad you looked it up to be sure you spelled their names correctly………..troll

      • AC0000000

        You must be new here. I absolutely hate the White Sox. I don’t even call them the White Sox. I call them the trash.

        Also, it’s easy to name 5+ players from that team, because Buerhle is a village idiot, White Sox fans were laughing non-stop about the Cubs trading Garland to them for Matt Karchner in 1998, Bobby Jenks is a dumbass, Konerko is retiring after this year, Garcia is one of Ozzie’s amigos, and everyone hates Pierzynski

      • Joe Aiello

        Someone learned to Google.

      • AC0000000

        I think someone didn’t read the post above