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Cubs 1, Nationals 2 – Game Notes

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MVP – Jordan Zimmermann (.355 WPA)

When you leave 12 men on base, it’s hard to win the ballgame. The Cubs had their chance today with guys on base all day. They just couldn’t capitalize on it and convert for more than one run. It’s a little frustrating to come away from the Nationals series on the road with just one win, but when you think about the start to the trip so far, we’re 4-2 heading to Cincinnati. I’ll take that.

Looking at the box score, you’ll see that both Jake Arrieta and Zimmermann had a game score of 62, but I thought Arrieta was much more effective, especially later in the start when he started striking guys out. His lone earned run came in the first inning after Denard Span hit a double to lead off the game. From then on, Arrieta really wasn’t in much trouble and finished the day with a quality start. He did his job, and the offense didn’t help. When you look at this team and their expected record base on run differential, you’ll see they should be better than they are. However, that has been due to the outstanding pitching, and not the offense. The offense continues to be the problem. Thankfully there is offense on the horizon.

Misc. Nuggets

  • The Cubs recalled Blake Parker from AAA Iowa to take the open roster spot from the trade. Parker has been closing games in Iowa this season and doing a good job at it. He’s finished 23 games in 25 innings of work, accounting for a 18 saves.
  • The Cubs announced their starting pitchers for the five game series in Cincinnati. Monday will be Edwin Jackson, Tuesday will be Travis Wood in game one and Tsuyoshi Wada making his Major League debut in the nightcap. Wednesday will be a guy named TBD, who is apparently really durable and will take the ball again in the series finale on Thursday. In all seriousness I’d look for Dallas Beeler to get one of those starts. The other one I’m not so sure on. Chris Rusin would make sense since he’s already on the roster, but I’d really rather not see that. I’d rather see him get optioned in favor of Dan Straily.
  • The Yankees designated long time Cubs outfielder, Alfonso Soriano, for assignment. Considering the Cubs were already paying $14 million of the $19 million that was owed to him, it actually would make sense to bring him back. This outfield can’t really be any worse. With the exception of Justin Ruggiano, who’s really hitting enough to warrant an every day job?
  • Kris Bryant and Juan Paniagua were named minor league hitter and pitcher of the month for June in the Cubs system.
  • There was a dude in the 7th inning at Nationals park that played God Bless America on a baseball bat violin. It was amazing.
  • Starlin Castro was elected to the All Star game and Anthony Rizzo is on the final ballot for the fans.
  • I’m all aboard the Sori train, Joe. I’m not sure if that is common sense or brilliance.

  • I’m all aboard the Sori train, Joe. I’m not sure if that is common sense or brilliance.

  • Doc Raker

    Good game bad result. I really enjoyed the Nats broadcasters, they are very insightful into the game unlike the music savant that broadcasts for the Cubs.

    Anyone else tune into the Nats broadcast?

    The Cubs are all about the future, Alfonso Soriano is not in the Cubs future so I just don’t see the point of bringing him back.

    • PLCB3

      Jim Hendry would acquire him

    • He’s already on the payroll and can hit one out from home. I’ve seen him do it. I’m guessing most of the utility men will be hitting lightly elsewhere next year, so let Sori run around with Lake and someone in right until Bryant shows up…

      • Doc Raker

        Those AB’s are better served with a prospect, whoever it may be. Look how long it took Rizzo to learn how to hit big league pitching. We should not be giving up on prospects after only a small sample size of stats. Why do we need a few more home runs in 2014? Winning games in 2014 is inconsequential to contending in 2015 and beyond.

      • Dusty_Baylor

        Well said Doc

      • Noah_I

        I’m not sure there’s really a prospect worthy of the PAs. I’d rather Lake goes down to Triple A and gets regular PAs. I’d be fine with bringing Sori back to retire as a Cub, but the Cubs could do the same by signing him to a 1 day contract in the off season. Although, considering Chris Coghlan’s and Justin Ruggiano’s improved numbers since the start of June (.262/.344/.440 for Coghlan, .309/.387/.519 for Ruggiano) and the fact that they should both remain pretty cheap at least for 2015, I’d rather make sure they both get regular playing time.

        I also wouldn’t be too concerned about Soriano adding wins because of (a) how bad he’s been, and (b) even if he improves I’d be really surprised if he added more than than one win over the remainder of the season.

        I’m fine if the Cubs do it, fine if they don’t.

      • Doc Raker

        You are going a little schizo here, you first say you don’t think there is a worthy prospect and then argue that both Coghlan and Riggy are worthy. I agree that Cogs and Riggy are worthy prospects of getting AB’s and if they weren’t I am sure there is someone else who is. Why is it important Soriano retire a Cub? He played for the Yanks, Nats, Rangers and Cubs. Let’s let retiring players retire and focus on developing youth for our upcoming contending Cubs team.

      • PLCB3

        Jim Hendry would have brought back Soriano. In 2002, manager Bruce Kimm was playing Fred McGriff over Hee Sop Choi so McGriff could be the first player to have 30 HR 100 RBI seasons for 5 different teams. When McGriff wasn’t going to be back in 2003. And Hendry did nothing about it. He could have stepped in and said play Choi.

      • Noah_I

        I’d say the bigger issue the Cubs had with McGriff was that they didn’t trade him in 2002. McGriff was still very good in 2002, posting a .273/.353/.505 line, good for a .366 wOBA. It was a much more offensive era, so that line wasn’t as impressive as it is today, but he would have been a meaningful improvement at either 1B or DH for a host of playoff or contending teams: Boston (at 1B), St. Louis, Minnesota (at 1B), Los Angeles Dodgers, Oakland (at DH), Yankees (at DH), Seattle (at DH).

      • PLCB3

        He had a crappy first half iirc.

      • Noah_I

        Considering people gave more emphasis to batting average in 2002, I’m not surprised if that argument was made at the time. McGriff actually struck out less and walked more, by significant margins, in the first half, with similar isolated power throughout the season. But he had a .262 BABIP in the first half, and a .315 BABIP in the second half. He also hit 17 of his 30 home runs in the first half. There were enough GMs who knew how important OBP was in 2002 that the Cubs could have netted a decent return for McGriff.

      • PLCB3

        All right but why was McGriff still playing in September when we were out of it and he wasn’t going to be back in 2003? Kimm said it was for the milestone.

      • Noah_I

        I wouldn’t call either Coghlan or Ruggiano “prospects”. Coghlan’s 29 and arbitration eligible, Ruggiano’s 32 and in arbitration. And even with giving them regular playing time, that’s two outfielders. Like I said, I’m perfectly happy with the Cubs not picking up Soriano and continuing to play Schierholtz in RF, but Sweeney and Lake have both been terrible. But I’d also be perfectly happy with the Cubs bringing back Soriano and benching Schierholtz, or bringing in Soriano to play LF against left handed pitchers. It would be hugely unimportant move, either way, and would be highly unlikely to affect any prospects.

  • Doc Raker

    Good game bad result. I really enjoyed the Nats broadcasters, they are very insightful into the game unlike the music savant that broadcasts for the Cubs.

    Anyone else tune into the Nats broadcast?

    The Cubs are all about the future, Alfonso Soriano is not in the Cubs future so I just don’t see the point of bringing him back.

    • AC0000000

      Jim Hendry would acquire him

    • He’s already on the payroll and can hit one out from home. I’ve seen him do it. I’m guessing most of the utility men will be hitting lightly elsewhere next year, so let Sori run around with Lake and someone in right until Bryant shows up…

      • Doc Raker

        Those AB’s are better served with a prospect, whoever it may be. Look how long it took Rizzo to learn how to hit big league pitching. We should not be giving up on prospects after only a small sample size of stats. Why do we need a few more home runs in 2014? Winning games in 2014 is inconsequential to contending in 2015 and beyond.

      • Dusty_Baylor

        Well said Doc

      • Noah_I

        I’m not sure there’s really a prospect worthy of the PAs. I’d rather Lake goes down to Triple A and gets regular PAs. I’d be fine with bringing Sori back to retire as a Cub, but the Cubs could do the same by signing him to a 1 day contract in the off season. Although, considering Chris Coghlan’s and Justin Ruggiano’s improved numbers since the start of June (.262/.344/.440 for Coghlan, .309/.387/.519 for Ruggiano) and the fact that they should both remain pretty cheap at least for 2015, I’d rather make sure they both get regular playing time.

        I also wouldn’t be too concerned about Soriano adding wins because of (a) how bad he’s been, and (b) even if he improves I’d be really surprised if he added more than than one win over the remainder of the season.

        I’m fine if the Cubs do it, fine if they don’t.

      • Doc Raker

        You are going a little schizo here, you first say you don’t think there is a worthy prospect and then argue that both Coghlan and Riggy are worthy. I agree that Cogs and Riggy are worthy prospects of getting AB’s and if they weren’t I am sure there is someone else who is. Why is it important Soriano retire a Cub? He played for the Yanks, Nats, Rangers and Cubs. Let’s let retiring players retire and focus on developing youth for our upcoming contending Cubs team.

      • AC0000000

        Jim Hendry would have brought back Soriano. In 2002, manager Bruce Kimm was playing Fred McGriff over Hee Sop Choi so McGriff could be the first player to have 30 HR 100 RBI seasons for 5 different teams. When McGriff wasn’t going to be back in 2003. And Hendry did nothing about it. He could have stepped in and said play Choi.

      • Noah_I

        I’d say the bigger issue the Cubs had with McGriff was that they didn’t trade him in 2002. McGriff was still very good in 2002, posting a .273/.353/.505 line, good for a .366 wOBA. It was a much more offensive era, so that line wasn’t as impressive as it is today, but he would have been a meaningful improvement at either 1B or DH for a host of playoff or contending teams: Boston (at 1B), St. Louis, Minnesota (at 1B), Los Angeles Dodgers, Oakland (at DH), Yankees (at DH), Seattle (at DH).

      • AC0000000

        He had a crappy first half iirc.

      • Noah_I

        Considering people gave more emphasis to batting average in 2002, I’m not surprised if that argument was made at the time. McGriff actually struck out less and walked more, by significant margins, in the first half, with similar isolated power throughout the season. But he had a .262 BABIP in the first half, and a .315 BABIP in the second half. He also hit 17 of his 30 home runs in the first half. There were enough GMs who knew how important OBP was in 2002 that the Cubs could have netted a decent return for McGriff.

      • AC0000000

        All right but why was McGriff still playing in September when we were out of it and he wasn’t going to be back in 2003? Kimm said it was for the milestone.

  • PLCB3

    When I saw the Misc. Nuggets heading, at first I thought it said Mac Nuggets

    • Rest assured. That is just a standard sodium-laced meat alert.

  • AC0000000

    When I saw the Misc. Nuggets heading, at first I thought it said Mac Nuggets

    • Rest assured. That is just a standard sodium-laced meat alert.

  • Darlin_Starlin

    My OOTP 15 cubs just traded Kris Bryant and Emilo Bonifacio to the A’s for Yoenis Cespedes. The fans liked it.

    • No way

      • Darlin_Starlin

        Way

    • Seymour Butts

      I’ve got a fantasy league too…

      • Doc Raker

        Yeh we know, and it only costs you one dollar bill at a time to play.

  • Darlin_Starlin

    My OOTP 15 cubs just traded Kris Bryant and Emilo Bonifacio to the A’s for Yoenis Cespedes. The fans liked it.

    • No way

      • Darlin_Starlin

        Way

    • Seymour Butts

      I’ve got a fantasy league too…

      • Doc Raker

        Yeh we know, and it only costs you one dollar bill at a time to play.

  • Dork

    Hendricks only pitched 2 innings tonight I am hoping he gets one of the starts this week. I am also hoping that adding parker does not mean that Villanueva becomes a regular starter.

    • Noah_I

      I’ve seen rumors he’s getting called up, maybe for a permanent spot in the rotation for the rest of the season. Considering how bad Villanueva was on Saturday, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Cubs would prefer to fill those two rotation spots from some combination of Hendricks, Wada, and Rusin.

  • Dork

    Hendricks only pitched 2 innings tonight I am hoping he gets one of the starts this week. I am also hoping that adding parker does not mean that Villanueva becomes a regular starter.

    • Noah_I

      I’ve seen rumors he’s getting called up, maybe for a permanent spot in the rotation for the rest of the season. Considering how bad Villanueva was on Saturday, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Cubs would prefer to fill those two rotation spots from some combination of Hendricks, Wada, and Rusin.

  • Doug S.

    Let me understand this. The Cubs would still have to pay 5 mill (pro-rated) to bring Soriano back? If so, too much. Do we really need the fielding grief he brings for possible OK at bats?

    • PLCB3

      No I think we would pay him a pro-rated share of the minimum with the Yankees paying the rest. That’s usually how it works when a DFA player finds new work.

    • Mark_from_Toronto

      Have to agree, as much as he would add some offense to the Cubs outfield (which has actually been halfway decent as of late), I don’t think paying him a pro-rated share of $5 million seems like a good idea.

      • Eddie Von White

        Have to agree – forget about Soriano. They’d be better off giving the prospects playing time.

    • Seymour Butts

      We are already paying that to him, on our roster or not.

  • Doug S.

    Let me understand this. The Cubs would still have to pay 5 mill (pro-rated) to bring Soriano back? If so, too much. Do we really need the fielding grief he brings for possible OK at bats?

    • AC0000000

      No I think we would pay him a pro-rated share of the minimum with the Yankees paying the rest. That’s usually how it works when a DFA player finds new work.

    • Mark_from_Toronto

      Have to agree, as much as he would add some offense to the Cubs outfield (which has actually been halfway decent as of late), I don’t think paying him a pro-rated share of $5 million seems like a good idea.

      • Eddie Von White

        Have to agree – forget about Soriano. They’d be better off giving the prospects playing time.

    • Seymour Butts

      We are already paying that to him, on our roster or not.

  • Dusty_Baylor

    .221/.244/.367… actually, it could be worse.

    • Dork

      We have seen worse

      • Dusty_Baylor

        True. Who do they drop to pick up Soriano?

  • Dusty_Baylor

    .221/.244/.367… actually, it could be worse.

    • Dork

      We have seen worse

      • Dusty_Baylor

        True. Who do they drop to pick up Soriano?

  • Look at that…our loss has vaulted our playoff chances by nearly a percent *and* prom dresses are still cheap.

  • Look at that…our loss has vaulted our playoff chances by nearly a percent *and* prom dresses are still cheap.

  • Doc Raker

    The leadoff double you speak of should of been an out, Riggy took a bad route to the ball- I think the next time Riggy see’s that play it will be an out.

  • Doc Raker

    The leadoff double you speak of should of been an out, Riggy took a bad route to the ball- I think the next time Riggy see’s that play it will be an out.

  • Dork

    I think I am an A’s fan for the rest of the year. Hope Shark and Hammy (Ricky’s name) get a WS ring.

    • Noah_I

      I’ve been rooting for the A’s in the playoffs every year they’ve made the playoffs since about 2000. I’ll be doing it even moreso now. When they get some money after they get a new stadium, man will Billy Beane be a dangerous GM. This is a good move on his part, though, realizing that they only have a couple years left on this window. They won’t be able to afford a lot of their offensive pieces when they hit free agency (Cespedes after ’15, Moss after either ’15 or ’16, Reddick after ’16, Donaldson after ’17) and they’ll likely have to trade some of them as they get more expensive through free agency.

      • PLCB3

        Oakland just re-upped for 10 more years at Oakland Coliseum

      • Doc Raker

        Ick- what happened to the high tech park they were building in hightechville?

      • Seymour Butts

        Scuttled due to low tech low capacity sewer system.

      • PLCB3

        Just like my high school. They were renovating it one year and my science teacher told our class that during the construction we specifically requested in the eye wash stations large sink basins and large drainage pipes because if someone has an accident and needs to flush out their eyes, the first floor will get flooded. Nope they didn’t listen. And an accident did happen and the library on the first floor indeed got flooded.

      • No way

      • PLCB3

        Yes way.

      • PLCB3

        The Giants are against it and I think the politicians are stalling things on purpose because they’re Giants fans. Kind of how Tunney is stalling things on purpose because he likes the trash.

      • Doc Raker

        Politicians muck everything up.

      • PLCB3

        Especially when they’re fans of rival teams.

    • PLCB3

      Oakland made this deal to win the World Series. But anyone can win once the playoffs start.

  • Dork

    I think I am an A’s fan for the rest of the year. Hope Shark and Hammy (Ricky’s name) get a WS ring.

    • Noah_I

      I’ve been rooting for the A’s in the playoffs every year they’ve made the playoffs since about 2000. I’ll be doing it even moreso now. When they get some money after they get a new stadium, man will Billy Beane be a dangerous GM. This is a good move on his part, though, realizing that they only have a couple years left on this window. They won’t be able to afford a lot of their offensive pieces when they hit free agency (Cespedes after ’15, Moss after either ’15 or ’16, Reddick after ’16, Donaldson after ’17) and they’ll likely have to trade some of them as they get more expensive through free agency.

      • AC0000000

        Oakland just re-upped for 10 more years at Oakland Coliseum

      • Doc Raker

        Ick- what happened to the high tech park they were building in hightechville?

      • Seymour Butts

        Scuttled due to low tech low capacity sewer system.

      • AC0000000

        Just like my high school. They were renovating it one year and my science teacher told our class that during the construction we specifically requested in the eye wash stations large sink basins and large drainage pipes because if someone has an accident and needs to flush out their eyes, the first floor will get flooded. Nope they didn’t listen. And an accident did happen and the library on the first floor indeed got flooded.

      • No way

      • AC0000000

        Yes way.

      • AC0000000

        The Giants are against it and I think the politicians are stalling things on purpose because they’re Giants fans. Kind of how Tunney is stalling things on purpose because he likes the trash.

      • Doc Raker

        Politicians muck everything up.

      • AC0000000

        Especially when they’re fans of rival teams.

    • AC0000000

      Oakland made this deal to win the World Series. But anyone can win once the playoffs start.

  • Dork

    Heard on the radio the idea of stretching out Neil Ramerez to start. I don’t think it would happen, but not a bad idea, with Vizcaino coming.

    • Noah_I

      If Ramirez is going to be stretched to start, it will be next year. But I’ve heard a lot of arm action concerns regarding him starting, and he’s a really good late innings reliever.

      And, although it’s in just 3.1 innings, Vizcaino has really struggled in Triple A so far, particularly with his control (walked 4 in the 3.1 innings). It’s too small of a sample size to be concerned, but it probably delays his Wrigley arrival until he puts 10-15 consecutive good innings together.

      Armando Rivero, a Cuban signee from a couple of years back, could actually be closer and just as good.

      • Dork

        With all of the releivers there might be an option to stretch one of them out if it is not Ramirez. I would be surprised if there is not still a releivers trade made yet.

  • Dork

    Heard on the radio the idea of stretching out Neil Ramerez to start. I don’t think it would happen, but not a bad idea, with Vizcaino coming.

    • Noah_I

      If Ramirez is going to be stretched to start, it will be next year. But I’ve heard a lot of arm action concerns regarding him starting, and he’s a really good late innings reliever.

      And, although it’s in just 3.1 innings, Vizcaino has really struggled in Triple A so far, particularly with his control (walked 4 in the 3.1 innings). It’s too small of a sample size to be concerned, but it probably delays his Wrigley arrival until he puts 10-15 consecutive good innings together.

      Armando Rivero, a Cuban signee from a couple of years back, could actually be closer and just as good.

      • Dork

        With all of the releivers there might be an option to stretch one of them out if it is not Ramirez. I would be surprised if there is not still a releivers trade made yet.