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Cubs 2, Red Sox 0 – Game Notes

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MVP – Jake Arrieta (.491 WPA)

I think I’ve shared this with you all in the past, but if not, I’ll do it now. I’m embarrassed to admit that I’ve never seen a no-hitter from start to finish on TV or in person live. I can remember a Carlos Zambrano start against the Diamondbacks that I thought he’d do it. I watched Kerry Wood‘s 20K game in which he should have been credited with a no hitter, but I’ve never actually seen a no no. Jake Arrieta got me very close again, but unfortunately the streak remains. I set tonight as appointment television and sat in front of the iPad watching a gem of a game by Arrieta.

In case you were wondering, the totals for the month of June for Arrieta finishes at 31.2 IP, 4 ER, 38 K’s, 4 BB, 1.14 ERA. Throw in Pedro Strop and the deal last year for Scott Feldman and Steve Clevenger to Baltimore looks awfully good right now for Theo and Jed’s resume.

Watching the rest of the game, there really wasn’t much to make it stand out. For example, I watched the whole game and not till I looked at the box score did I really realize that Chris Coghlan got four at bats and played left field. I never really heard his name. Nate Schierholtz, who people said was breaking out of his funk a few weeks ago, managed to hit a two run home run and that was all she wrote for offense overall. Outside of that, about the most exciting thing was watching two really nice plays by the Red Sox ball girl down the third base line and a one handed grab by Jim Deshaies in the TV booth on a Darwin Barney foul ball. Sometimes it’s the quiet wins that I love the most.

  • Brett Taylor at Bleacher nation notes that Jason Hammel may be the most sought after pitcher on the trade market this season given his price tag and performance. The Blue Jays may be a suitor for him as well as Darwin Barney and Carlos Villanueva. Don’t ask me why on those last two, but if they’re willing to give up something for them, we need to listen.
  • John Sickels had a write up on recent Cubs call up, Dallas Beeler on his site.
  • Theo Epstein addresses rumors that he’d opt out of Chicago after his contract expires in 2016.
  • Jason McLeod has pulled his name from the running for the Padres GM job. We all need to pop a cork and celebrate as he’s a vital cog in this front office wheel.

  • Doc Raker

    I saw Burt Hooton throw a no hitter in April 1971.

    • Eddie Von White

      I saw Kenny Holtzman throw a no-no in 1969 against Henry Aaron and the Braves. He had no stike outs in that game.

      • Doc Raker

        Can you name the other Cubs pitcher who threw a no hitter in 1971?

      • Eddie Von White

        Would that be the other Ken Holtzman?

      • PLCB3

        Was Milt’s 1972 no-no his second one?

      • Doc Raker

        I stand corrected Burt Hooton’s no hitter was April 16 1972 and Milt Pappas’s no hitter was Sept 2 1972.

        Milt Pappas coached at the small D3 school I played at the year before I got there. When I was a freshman one of the upper classman told us a story of Milt giveng him a hard time in which he responded, “They were all balls”. Referring to the borderline calls that ruined his perfect game with 2 outs in the 9th inning. Milt went nuts as the story goes.

      • PLCB3

        He’s still pissed about it. I met him at the convention and asked him about it.

      • I bet you two hit it off, CAPS. Decades-old pitch series recaps and whatever you have been trying forever to get across about Dunn seem to be on the same wavelength. I hope you stated your case against whatever that was.

      • Doc Raker

        I know, he bitches about the umpire every time he is interviewed.

      • PLCB3

        Hey I would too if I was screwed out of a perfect game like that.

      • Doc Raker

        When the umpire is interviewed he claims Milt admitted they were outside the day after the game and as time goes on they have become obvious strikes. He was 1-2 on the guy and it was three close pitches. In the 1990’s umpires were giving pitchers 3 inches off the outside corner.

      • Doc Raker

        I stand corrected Burt Hooton’s no hitter was April 16 1972 and Milt Pappas’s no hitter was Sept 2 1972.

        Milt Pappas coached at the small D3 school I played at the year before I got there. When I was a freshman one of the upper classman told us a story of Milt giveng him a hard time in which he responded, “They were all balls”. Referring to the borderline calls that ruined his perfect game with 2 outs in the 9th inning. Milt went nuts as the story goes.

      • AC0000000

        He’s still pissed about it. I met him at the convention and asked him about it.

      • I bet you two hit it off, CAPS. Decades-old pitch series recaps and whatever you have been trying forever to get across about Dunn seem to be on the same wavelength. I hope you stated your case against whatever that was.

      • Doc Raker

        I know, he bitches about the umpire every time he is interviewed.

      • AC0000000

        Hey I would too if I was screwed out of a perfect game like that.

      • Doc Raker

        When the umpire is interviewed he claims Milt admitted they were outside the day after the game and as time goes on they have become obvious strikes. He was 1-2 on the guy and it was three close pitches. In the 1990’s umpires were giving pitchers 3 inches off the outside corner.

      • Doc Raker

        Can you name the other Cubs pitcher who threw a no hitter in 1971?

    • Dork

      I was at the Milwaukee Zambrano – no hitter. Weird cubs moment being in Milwaukee and not playing the brewers. This was before I started keeping a spreadsheet

      • Doc Raker

        I remember watching the Zambrano no hitter. Those poor Astro’s were in the middle of hurricane disaster, was it Katrina? The Astro’s were exhausted, worried about there families and homes and Zambrano took full advantage. Zambrano was dealing but he was pitching to guys swinging really slow bats.

      • PLCB3

        Katrina was 2005 in New Orleans. Ike was Houston in 2008.

      • Dork

        Does this in any way change the point or enhance the conversation?

      • PLCB3

        He asked a question, I gave an answer

      • Dork

        Does this in any way change the point or enhance the conversation?

      • AC0000000

        He asked a question, I gave an answer

      • Doc Raker

        I knew you would know, you are a trivia savant.

      • Seymour Butts

        I flew thru Dallas when Ike was hitting Houston. Scuba diving trip.
        Just knew you wanted to know.

      • I believe Ike hit Tina and Bobby Brown hit Houston. Could be mistaken though.

      • Dork

        nicely done, I guess it did enhance the conversation, I stand corrected.

      • Doc Raker

        Rack it!

      • Doc Raker

        I knew you would know, you are a trivia savant.

  • Doc Raker

    I saw Burt Hooton throw a no hitter in April 1971.

    • Dork

      I was at the Milwaukee Zambrano – no hitter. Weird cubs moment being in Milwaukee and not playing the brewers. This was before I started keeping a spreadsheet

  • PLCB3

    B the C was 4 outs away in 2003 against Arizona and the umpire hosed him. If replay was in use back then he would be going to the 9th with it. What about Zambrano’s 2008 no-hitter, Joe? I watched the game on nesn I enjoy Jerry Remy’s call a lot. It’s too bad Jenny Dell doesn’t work for NESN anymore. Will Middlebrooks isn’t even that good of a player.

    • Joe Aiello

      Zambrano’s no hitter was not on WGN America. It was just local that day.

      • PLCB3

        But all WGN games are WGN America. It’s Bulls games where you have to see if it’s Chicago only.

      • PLCB3

        Did you get to watch the game the next day? Ted Lilly took a no-hitter into the 7th

    • Joe Aiello

      Zambrano’s no hitter was not on WGN America. It was just local that day.

  • Doug S.

    I too watched all the game. Man, Arrieta looked good. Kept thinking we gotta keep this guy. Nice win for the Cubs, even though Boston must have been tired from the late Yankees game the night before.
    During Pierzynski’s at bat in the 9th a strike was called that he clearly disagreed with. He swings at the next pitch and the bat comes out of his hands back towards the ump. He missed the ball and the ump. It looked on purpose. Anybody else think that?

    • PLCB3

      It’s Pierzynski what do you expect? He should have smashed the dugout ceiling like he did on Sunday.

      • Doug S.

        In the 2nd game he hits a fly that Coghlan makes a very nice catch on. The camera catches him on the run to first shouting FU. JD notices and says ‘AJ, it’s not personal.’ Pierzynski really seems to be an ass.

      • PLCB3

        He is an ass. When he was in SF, he kneed the Giants trainer in the balls.

      • Eddie Von White

        How do you know these things?

      • PLCB3

        I read it in the papers when he first signed with the trash.

      • PLCB3
    • AC0000000

      It’s Pierzynski what do you expect? He should have smashed the dugout ceiling like he did on Sunday.

  • Noah_I

    I was going to post something reiterating my desire for the Cubs to sign Arrieta to an extension at the end of the seson…then I checked and saw his agent is Boras. Unfortunately, that makes it far less likely that Arrieta would agree to an extension.

    • PLCB3

      Do you think they should trade him in that case?

      • Noah_I

        No, they should definitively not look to trade Arrieta now. He doesn’t even hit arbitration until next season, so the Cubs have him under control through 2017. At least the latter two of those seasons should be at the beginning of the Cubs’ window, potentially all three.

      • PLCB3

        I was unaware that he was under team control.

    • Doc Raker

      borASS

      • Dork

        Where is he at in his arbitration years? That seems to be the front office mindset.

      • Noah_I

        Next year will be his first arbitration year.

      • Dork

        Then unless someone has to have him, and gives you crazy value, there is no reason to make a trade. He is already a long term asset with high upside potential. May never realize it, but high upside potential has always been the story.

      • Noah_I

        I completely agree. There’s absolutely no reason to shop Arrieta. You’d have to get some utterly insane return for him that is never going to happen. Like the Orioles would have to give up Gausman, Bundy, and Harvery, or the Twins would have to give up Buxton, Sano, and one of their top pitching prospects.

      • Eddie Von White

        High upside potential has high upside potential.

      • Dork

        nicely said

      • Dork

        nicely said

      • Dork

        Then unless someone has to have him, and gives you crazy value, there is no reason to make a trade. He is already a long term asset with high upside potential. May never realize it, but high upside potential has always been the story.

  • Dork

    I see the old playoffs odds really took a hit this week.

  • Dork

    The spreadsheet says that even with the hot start the cubs finished June with a record of 15 -13. With the shut out last night It was their best pitching month in runs against in over 2 years they gave up 3.6 runs per game. The spreadsheet also says their offense sucks, incase anyone did not notice. Glad to confirm it for you.

    • Eddie Von White

      Thank you, Dork. Spreadsheets do not lie.

    • PLCB3

      What do your spreadsheets say about Will Middlebrooks before and after he started screwing Jenny Dell?

      • Doug S.

        My spreadsheet shows the Before cell as fine, but there’s this strange error in the After cell.

      • Dork

        I only track the cubs in my spreadsheet, I let fan graphs take care of the rest. So if you know the date of the illedged first incident I am sure you can do a couple of quick queries on fan graphs to get the answer. There is a link above next to the prom dresses link.

      • PLCB3

        They went public with their relationship NYE 2013, so things had to have been going on before that.

      • Good to know.

      • Eddie Von White

        Thanks for bringing the prom dress link up again.

      • PLCB3

        A high school kid scored Jenny Dell for prom.

  • Mark_from_Toronto

    Since Tuesday was a holiday up here (Canada Day), I was able to watch all of Monday night’s game for once. I was hoping for Arrieta to get the no-no, but looking at his pitch count I didn’t hold out much hope for him to make it. I will say it was nice to see that the opposing crowd at Fenway gave him a standing ovation when he did leave the game.

  • Doug S.

    Cubs 16, Red Sox 9 in Fenway? Are you kidding me?

    • PLCB3

      That was awesome.

    • Mark_from_Toronto

      Always nice to see a football score in a baseball game, even more so when the Cubs are the ones that win by a touchdown.

  • Doug S.

    Cubs 16, Red Sox 9 in Fenway? Are you kidding me?

    • AC0000000

      That was awesome.

    • Mark_from_Toronto

      Always nice to see a football score in a baseball game, even more so when the Cubs are the ones that win by a touchdown.

  • Doc Raker

    Cubs swept the Red Sox if anyone is paying attention. Darwin Barney had 4 hits in yesterdays game including a triple and a double and the sun still came up today.

    • PLCB3

      He was a HR from the cycle.

      • Doc Raker

        He was but they didn’t let him bat from second base so he didn’t get the HR.

      • The ump didn’t notice his fungo until the 8th.

  • Doc Raker

    Cubs swept the Red Sox if anyone is paying attention. Darwin Barney had 4 hits in yesterdays game including a triple and a double and the sun still came up today.

    • AC0000000

      He was a HR from the cycle.

  • lifepainter

    I saw Nolan Ryan throw a no hitter on TV against the Rangers in I think 1990. Listen to Tom Brownings 1988 perfect game vs. the Dodgers on the radio. Heard Steve Busby’s second no hitter on K.C. Royals radio in 1974. Saw Eric Milton’s saturday morning no hitter for Minnesota vs. the Angels in 1999. The game had been moved to a early morning start to accommmodate a college football game also in the Metro Dome for later that night.

  • lifepainter

    I saw Nolan Ryan throw a no hitter on TV against the Rangers in I think 1990. Listen to Tom Brownings 1988 perfect game vs. the Dodgers on the radio. Heard Steve Busby’s second no hitter on K.C. Royals radio in 1974. Saw Eric Milton’s saturday morning no hitter for Minnesota vs. the Angels in 1999. The game had been moved to a early morning start to accommmodate a college football game also in the Metro Dome for later that night.