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January 2014

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  • PLCB3

    Tanaka: I think he’s going to the Dodgers. One of my friends is so confident that the Cubs are signing him so I made a bet for $20.

  • AC0000000

    Tanaka: I think he’s going to the Dodgers. One of my friends is so confident that the Cubs are signing him so I made a bet for $20.
    A-Rod: I don’t care

  • Doug S.

    Nice, I like the video delivery of content.
    Tanaka to the Dodgers still makes the most sense to me.
    “A-Rod is the turd that won’t flush” somebody posted this comment on one of the sports sites. I cannot say it better.
    Your work (and that of others) on this site is greatly appreciated. Understanding that it “is” work and you’ve all got day jobs and family lives, the only suggestion I’d make is to consider having open threads (Game 35 – Open Thread) when daily game threads become too much. That way commenters could post in relevant game threads. Maybe also consider off season open threads and see how it goes.
    Thanks.

    • I love that idea, Doug, in season or out!

      • PLCB3

        The Go! column was a great feature. Any plans to bring it back and possibly continue it during the season too? Unless it is too much work during the season? How much work does it take to produce it? I had an idea a while back for a Go! column.

      • Volunteer to bring it back. Use your name, write well, and use it as a resume piece.

      • PLCB3

        Ok, I will. Seriously. I have no issue taking over the Go! column.

  • Doug S.

    Nice, I like the video delivery of content.
    Tanaka to the Dodgers still makes the most sense to me.
    “A-Rod is the turd that won’t flush” somebody posted this comment on one of the sports sites. I cannot say it better.
    Your work (and that of others) on this site is greatly appreciated. Understanding that it “is” work and you’ve all got day jobs and family lives, the only suggestion I’d make is to consider having open threads (Game 35 – Open Thread) when daily game threads become too much. That way commenters could post in relevant game threads. Maybe also consider off season open threads and see how it goes.
    Thanks.

    • I love that idea, Doug, in season or out!

      • AC0000000

        The Go! column was a great feature. Any plans to bring it back and possibly continue it during the season too? Unless it is too much work during the season? How much work does it take to produce it? I had an idea a while back for a Go! column.

      • Volunteer to bring it back. Use your name, write well, and use it as a resume piece.

      • AC0000000

        Ok, I will. Seriously. I have no issue taking over the Go! column.

  • Tomas Checkosky

    He went to the Yankees. It could be I-rob-u all over again?

  • Tomas Checkosky

    He went to the Yankees. It could be I-rob-u all over again?

  • Tomas Checkosky

    As far as your video, you know I loved doing video recaps for our fantasy football leagues so I think its great! By the way, have you begun what my father asked of you???

  • Tomas Checkosky

    As far as your video, you know I loved doing video recaps for our fantasy football leagues so I think its great! By the way, have you begun what my father asked of you???

  • Noah_I

    Since it doesn’t look like the full details got posted here yet, Tanaka signed with the Yankees for 7 years/$155 million, with an opt out after 4 years. That doesn’t incude the $20 million posting fee. I’ve always said that I’d be psyched if the Cubs got Tanaka because he’d be the Cubs’ best pitcher, but only slightly bummed if they didn’t get him because the money was likely to be a ton. And that’s exactly how I feel about this deal. If Tanaka is good for the Yankees, he gets $88.5 million over 4 seasons, then opts out for a bigger contract. If he’s mediocre or injured, he gets the full $155 million over 7 years.

    • Doc Raker

      Isn’t that great, $22M per season but let’s make sure we have an escape option just in case it isn’t enough. You never know, the kids might need a new pair of shoes in year 5.

      • PLCB3

        How is this any different than the contract Kershaw signed? Opt-out after 5 years. Or Sabathia’s original deal with the Yankees? Opt-out after 3 years.

      • Noah_I

        This is the way I look at it. X dollars come into the sport every year. Every dollar that isn’t spent on payroll, facilities, or some other expense, just goes into the owners’ pockets. The owners are far wealthier than any of the baseball players. I just have no issue with the players, the reason the sport exists, making lots of money and retaining the ability to make more in the future in an agreed upon contract.

      • PLCB3

        The Ricketts family doesn’t keep a single penny from the team. They have plenty of money and live simple. They have 600M of debt from the purchase to pay down which they can’t do for another 4 years.

      • Noah_I

        And I don’t think they should keep a single penny from the team. I’ve seen very good arguments that baseball team owners, who are very wealthy from other endeavors, should run the teams revenue neutral from year to year, and take their profits solely when the team is sold. I agree they have a ton of debt to pay down, but my understanding is that the reason they have to pay it down over that time period is a part of loan agreement itself.

        Also, my particular point in regards to the Tanaka signing didn’t really have to do with the Cubs’ ownership, as they are in an odd and somewhat difficult financial situation that was not of their choosing, but a requirement to purchase the Cubs from Zell and the Tribune. It applies more generally to the teams that are flush with cash, like the Dodgers and Yankees.

      • PLCB3

        You are correct about the debt. Which I am saying even if the Ricketts family is not putting every last penny into the team, the money that they aren’t putting in is being used to pay off the debt, which you could consider putting into the team.

        Also, as far as I understand, you can use your personal finances to bankroll operations. Like in the NFL you can’t. People were bitching about the Dolphins owner asking Miami to build him a stadium but then making a 200M donation to his alma mater. He can’t use that 200M to build/renovate a stadium. He can only use team related revenues.

      • Doc Raker

        True, it is the market.

      • PLCB3

        Steinbrenner said today in regards to the contract that if they didn’t have revenue sharing expense their payroll would be 300M

  • Noah_I

    Since it doesn’t look like the full details got posted here yet, Tanaka signed with the Yankees for 7 years/$155 million, with an opt out after 4 years. That doesn’t incude the $20 million posting fee. I’ve always said that I’d be psyched if the Cubs got Tanaka because he’d be the Cubs’ best pitcher, but only slightly bummed if they didn’t get him because the money was likely to be a ton. And that’s exactly how I feel about this deal. If Tanaka is good for the Yankees, he gets $88.5 million over 4 seasons, then opts out for a bigger contract. If he’s mediocre or injured, he gets the full $155 million over 7 years.

    • Doc Raker

      Isn’t that great, $22M per season but let’s make sure we have an escape option just in case it isn’t enough. You never know, the kids might need a new pair of shoes in year 5.

      • AC0000000

        How is this any different than the contract Kershaw signed? Opt-out after 5 years. Or Sabathia’s original deal with the Yankees? Opt-out after 3 years.

      • Noah_I

        This is the way I look at it. X dollars come into the sport every year. Every dollar that isn’t spent on payroll, facilities, or some other expense, just goes into the owners’ pockets. The owners are far wealthier than any of the baseball players. I just have no issue with the players, the reason the sport exists, making lots of money and retaining the ability to make more in the future in an agreed upon contract.

      • AC0000000

        The Ricketts family doesn’t keep a single penny from the team. They have plenty of money and live simple. They have 600M of debt from the purchase to pay down which they can’t do for another 4 years.

      • Noah_I

        And I don’t think they should keep a single penny from the team. I’ve seen very good arguments that baseball team owners, who are very wealthy from other endeavors, should run the teams revenue neutral from year to year, and take their profits solely when the team is sold. I agree they have a ton of debt to pay down, but my understanding is that the reason they have to pay it down over that time period is a part of loan agreement itself.

        Also, my particular point in regards to the Tanaka signing didn’t really have to do with the Cubs’ ownership, as they are in an odd and somewhat difficult financial situation that was not of their choosing, but a requirement to purchase the Cubs from Zell and the Tribune. It applies more generally to the teams that are flush with cash, like the Dodgers and Yankees.

      • AC0000000

        You are correct about the debt. Which I am saying even if the Ricketts family is not putting every last penny into the team, the money that they aren’t putting in is being used to pay off the debt, which you could consider putting into the team.

        Also, as far as I understand, you can use your personal finances to bankroll operations. Like in the NFL you can’t. People were bitching about the Dolphins owner asking Miami to build him a stadium but then making a 200M donation to his alma mater. He can’t use that 200M to build/renovate a stadium. He can only use team related revenues.

      • Doc Raker

        True, it is the market.

      • AC0000000

        Steinbrenner said today in regards to the contract that if they didn’t have revenue sharing expense their payroll would be 300M

  • Chuck

    Wait!? Your mouth is not in the shape of a triangle? I am confused…

    • Seymour Butts

      It took 3 surgical procedures to smooth out the corners. I think it turned out nicely.

      • Jedi

        The drawback is that his kids’ shape-sorting skills are going to diminish quickly.

  • Chuck

    Wait!? Your mouth is not in the shape of a triangle? I am confused…

    • Seymour Butts

      It took 3 surgical procedures to smooth out the corners. I think it turned out nicely.

      • Jedi

        The drawback is that his kids’ shape-sorting skills are going to diminish quickly.

  • Eddie Von White

    I’m just not all that comfortable having a cup of Joe Aiello in the morning, but I did like the video.

  • Eddie Von White

    I’m just not all that comfortable having a cup of Joe Aiello in the morning, but I did like the video.