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The Chicago Bears Are Precisely What the Cubs Shouldn't Want to Be

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Most Septembers, Chicagoans end a summer of bickering about whether the Cubs or White Sox were more terrible in any given season and unite to root for the Bears at the start of football season. Since the conclusion of the 2007 Super Bowl, that involved rooting for what is arguably the most mediocre team in football. In the seven seasons since the Bears last played in the world’s biggest annual television spectacle, the Bears finished 7-9 twice (2007 and 2009), 8-8 twice (2011 and 2013), 9-7 once (2008), 10-6 once (2012) and 11-5 once (2010). In only one of those seasons, 2010, the Bears made the playoffs.

In that span, the Bears have never been a bad team, but instead have been consistently mediocre. Even had the Bears slipped into the playoffs this season, no one would have confused them for a Super Bowl contender. And the route to true, Super Bowl contention relevance is… well, it seems like the Bears are as far away from that now as they were a year ago. The Bears have the best offense I can ever remember them having, but now the defense is a mess, and old.

Now, the NFL is different from the MLB in a lot of ways. The NFLPA has nowhere near the power the MLBPA does, and there’s a salary cap, so the ability to build through free agency is greater. Also, success in the NFL is so heavily dependent on good quarterback play, and there’s just no comparable position in baseball, even the ace starting pitcher.

But the Bears’ mediocrity merely begets more mediocrity. It’s been nearly a decade of hole filling, and once one is filled, another opens up. Oh, they were able to fix the problems enough for one year to make a run in the playoffs one season when they drew a favorable matchup at home in the divisional round against a 7-9 Seattle Seahawks team, and they’ve been largely competivish for the past few seasons. But no one has mistaken the Bears for a real Super Bowl contender, and they’ve been constantly a step behind the Green Bay Packers.

But the Bears, particularly in the latter half of the Jerry Angelo years, were close enough to competitive that there was a constant excuse to not tear the parts that didn’t work down.

Now, tear downs can fail. They’re risky, and a failed teardown means everyone in the front office and on the coaching staff loses their jobs. If the Cubs’ farm system based rebuild doesn’t work out, Theo Epstein’s legacy will take a significant hit. But the Epstein/Hoyer/McLeod regime are not interested in being competivish.

As a fan, I’d rather have a tear down and rebuild for a shot at a Packers or St. Louis Cardinals like extended run of true competitiveness, even if the tear down might not work, then close to a decade of uninspired mediocrity. Trust me, the latter is far more annoying.

  • PLCB3

    I’ve been saying that since 2007 that the Bears need a complete overhaul. I got flamed to no end for saying it.

    • Jedi

      Feel free to check up with some of your ex-friend/Bears’ fans, but my guess is that you were “flamed” for jumping to a hated rival.

      • PLCB3

        I got flamed from 2007-2009 when I was a Bears fan.

      • cap’n Obvious

        we are allowed to just change allegiances? You mean I don’t HAVE to root for the Cubs? I could just wake up tomorrow and be a Cardinal fan?

        Dear god I hope not.

      • PLCB3

        It goes far deeper than that. And I am not going into particulars. Basically what happened is I got fed up of arguing with Bears fans. Everyone was happy with the Love-tron, everyone thought the team was fine, nothing needed to be changed. Then last year, fans were rooting for the Bears to lose so Lovie would get fired. So how come rooting for losses so he would get fired wasn’t acceptable in 2008 and 2009, but in 2012, it was okay?

      • Jedi

        It really doesn’t go any deeper – you jumped ship for the most hated rival. Facts and circumstances don’t matter. Even if the Bears entire franchise singled you out personally and launched a violent vendetta against you and your family – there are 31 other teams in the league and you picked the ONE that you were supposed to despise the most.

        If 2014 takes you to the Cards, we’re going to “flame” you as well.

      • PLCB3

        Upon quitting the Bears, the hatred for the Packers goes away. What if I became a fan of the Lions of Vikings? Don’t worry, I’m not going to leave the Cubs. I love them too much to do so and the fans never did anything to piss me off the way the dumbest fans in the NFL did. The only Chicago teams I root for are the Cubs and Bulls.

      • cap’n Obvious

        I knew you’re mad at UIC, too…and trust me, they NEED your support. You should see the bleeding heart fundraising stuff I get in the mail…and those athletes have so much more than we ever did in 1989-91…

        In all seriousness, it’s not that you quit on the Bears…it’s not even that you jumped to the Packers…it’s your reasoning that’s a bit garbanzo beans here. It’s your fandom (or fan dumb) so you can do with it what you wish…but who does that? Did Lizzie become a Ranger fan when her beloved Geovany Soto got traded? Did Raker just stop going to Cub camp because the lunch menu was 3rd rate and chockabock full of sodium? You can’t just decide that whoever beats your team in the playoffs in a single year is your new team and expect to be taken seriously….can you?

      • Jedi

        Just in time to help Rodgers win it all!

      • PLCB3

        When Lovie wasn’t fired after 2009 that was it for me.

      • Remembering why you were flamed back in 2007 points to the need for a new hobby or two.

      • PLCB3

        Not really, it’s not that hard to forget. And I have been doing other things this year. Instead of staying inside and loading up on pizza and wings every single week while watching football, I’ve been going out and exploring Boston on the weekends and enjoying my Sundays. Of course every now and then I’ll stay in and watch football, but not like I used to.

      • With all of those giant pizzas, I’m sure Chicago has a population of large Japanese.

      • PLCB3

        Homer, Lenny, Carl, Barney, Sam, and Larry, 6 guys who cause 91% of all traffic accidents in Springfield is wondering what the hell does this even mean?

      • Jedi

        He’s busy finding something to replace “knowing the exact tip given a decade ago by the Cubs’ owner on a pizza order”…he’ll get to “why I was ‘flamed’ when I committed the ultimate betrayal” in the New Year.

      • PLCB3

        You don’t seem to read very well. I suggest you get an eye exam. I was flamed WHILE I WAS A BEARS FAN. In 2006, I said bench Grossman. I was a Bears fan. I got flamed to no end. It was so bad I had to shut down my facebook account for 2 weeks. In 2008 I was rooting for losses so Lovie would get fired. I was a Bears fan. I got flamed to no end. In 2009 I was rooting for losses so Lovie would get fired. I was a Bears fan. I got flamed to no end. So how did any of this happen before committing the ultimate betrayal. As far as I am concerned, once I turn in my Bears fan card, I am free to pick any team I want. Including the Packers. And the reason I became a Packers fan is not because they are rivals, but because the Packers are the team that knocked the Bears out of the 2010 playoffs. Going into the 2010 playoffs, I said whoever knocks out the Bears is going to be the new team I root for.

      • Jedi

        That’s a nice story – if you don’t want people to “flame” you, you shouldn’t switch to the most hated rival.

      • AC0000000

        I got flamed from 2007-2009 when I was a Bears fan.

      • cap’n Obvious

        we are allowed to just change allegiances? You mean I don’t HAVE to root for the Cubs? I could just wake up tomorrow and be a Cardinal fan?

        Dear god I hope not.

      • AC0000000

        It goes far deeper than that. And I am not going into particulars. Basically what happened is I got fed up of arguing with Bears fans. Everyone was happy with the Love-tron, everyone thought the team was fine, nothing needed to be changed. Then last year, fans were rooting for the Bears to lose so Lovie would get fired. So how come rooting for losses so he would get fired wasn’t acceptable in 2008 and 2009, but in 2012, it was okay?

      • Jedi

        It really doesn’t go any deeper – you jumped ship for the most hated rival. Facts and circumstances don’t matter. Even if the Bears entire franchise singled you out personally and launched a violent vendetta against you and your family – there are 31 other teams in the league and you picked the ONE that you were supposed to despise the most.

        If 2014 takes you to the Cards, we’re going to “flame” you as well.

      • AC0000000

        Upon quitting the Bears, the hatred for the Packers goes away. What if I became a fan of the Lions of Vikings? Don’t worry, I’m not going to leave the Cubs. I love them too much to do so and the fans never did anything to piss me off the way the dumbest fans in the NFL did. The only Chicago teams I root for are the Cubs and Bulls.

      • cap’n Obvious

        I knew you’re mad at UIC, too…and trust me, they NEED your support. You should see the bleeding heart fundraising stuff I get in the mail…and those athletes have so much more than we ever did in 1989-91…

        In all seriousness, it’s not that you quit on the Bears…it’s not even that you jumped to the Packers…it’s your reasoning that’s a bit garbanzo beans here. It’s your fandom (or fan dumb) so you can do with it what you wish…but who does that? Did Lizzie become a Ranger fan when her beloved Geovany Soto got traded? Did Raker just stop going to Cub camp because the lunch menu was 3rd rate and chockabock full of sodium? You can’t just decide that whoever beats your team in the playoffs in a single year is your new team and expect to be taken seriously….can you?

      • Jedi

        Just in time to help Rodgers win it all!

      • AC0000000

        When Lovie wasn’t fired after 2009 that was it for me.

      • Remembering why you were flamed back in 2007 points to the need for a new hobby or two.

      • AC0000000

        Not really, it’s not that hard to forget. And I have been doing other things this year. Instead of staying inside and loading up on pizza and wings every single week while watching football, I’ve been going out and exploring Boston on the weekends and enjoying my Sundays. Of course every now and then I’ll stay in and watch football, but not like I used to.

      • With all of those giant pizzas, I’m sure Chicago has a population of large Japanese.

      • AC0000000

        Homer, Lenny, Carl, Barney, Sam, and Larry, 6 guys who cause 91% of all traffic accidents in Springfield is wondering what the hell does this even mean?

      • Jedi

        He’s busy finding something to replace “knowing the exact tip given a decade ago by the Cubs’ owner on a pizza order”…he’ll get to “why I was ‘flamed’ when I committed the ultimate betrayal” in the New Year.

      • AC0000000

        You don’t seem to read very well. I suggest you get an eye exam. I was flamed WHILE I WAS A BEARS FAN. In 2006, I said bench Grossman. I was a Bears fan. I got flamed to no end. It was so bad I had to shut down my facebook account for 2 weeks. In 2008 I was rooting for losses so Lovie would get fired. I was a Bears fan. I got flamed to no end. In 2009 I was rooting for losses so Lovie would get fired. I was a Bears fan. I got flamed to no end. So how did any of this happen before committing the ultimate betrayal. As far as I am concerned, once I turn in my Bears fan card, I am free to pick any team I want. Including the Packers. And the reason I became a Packers fan is not because they are rivals, but because the Packers are the team that knocked the Bears out of the 2010 playoffs. Going into the 2010 playoffs, I said whoever knocks out the Bears is going to be the new team I root for.

      • Jedi

        That’s a nice story – if you don’t want people to “flame” you, you shouldn’t switch to the most hated rival.

  • AC0000000

    I’ve been saying that since 2007 that the Bears need a complete overhaul. I got flamed to no end for saying it.

  • Chuck

    Now that there is a rookie contract salary scale based on draft position in the NFL, it is actually possible to build through the draft without the fear that one bust pick with a huge rookie contract will destroy your cap.

    I used to be a Bears fan way back when and I stopped because the Bears do not care about winning. They care about money first and only. I am a nominal Chiefs fan, but I could care less about the NFL at this point. I used to watch every game religiously, and now I only care about football games my kids are playing in. I can’t quite put my finger on why I stopped watching but I believe it was a combination of constant roster turnover through free agency and non-guaranteed contracts and games taking 3+ hours to play. I have too much going on to sit on my butt for 3+ hours to watch a game.

  • Chuck

    Now that there is a rookie contract salary scale based on draft position in the NFL, it is actually possible to build through the draft without the fear that one bust pick with a huge rookie contract will destroy your cap.

    I used to be a Bears fan way back when and I stopped because the Bears do not care about winning. They care about money first and only. I am a nominal Chiefs fan, but I could care less about the NFL at this point. I used to watch every game religiously, and now I only care about football games my kids are playing in. I can’t quite put my finger on why I stopped watching but I believe it was a combination of constant roster turnover through free agency and non-guaranteed contracts and games taking 3+ hours to play. I have too much going on to sit on my butt for 3+ hours to watch a game.

  • With all of those giant pizzas, I’m sure Chicago has a population of large Japanese.

  • With all of those giant pizzas, I’m sure Chicago has a population of large Japanese.

  • Doc Raker

    I am not a big NFL guy anymore after growing up watching Walter Payton and the rest of the Bears every Sunday but my son likes the Bears and so now I follow them again. How rotten is it to lose such an important game because your team didn’t play to the whistle, if the Bears jump on that ‘fumble’ they win the game. I don’t know which play was worse, the ‘fumble’ or the last 4th and 8 that went for a touchdown. But like Joe said, even if they won they are not a Super Bowl contender. I can’t remember in my life time when the Bears had a top ranked offense and a bottom ranked defense. How far the Bears defense has fallen since Dannible Hampton, Richard Dent, Otis Wilson, Wilbur Marshall, Mike Singletary, Fridge and the rest of that amazing unit. Why isn’t everyone running Buddy Ryan’s defense by now?

    • Seymour Butts

      I should have been a Bears fan living in Rensselaer, IN during my grade school years. The Bears trained there at the time and I rode my bike to many of their practices. I, somewhere, have signatures of Sayers, Piccolo, Jack Concannon, Butkus, maybe Ditka. But the Packers were my team from day one probably as they were big time winners in the 60’s. The Cubs have been mine due to WGN and I’ve stuck with both teams for 50years.
      The Bears have a good offence, they should not dick with it, but since Lovie left, the defense has been ignored. Cutler is better than any currently available option. I hope they dump him (I’m a Packer fan).
      Teams that are good for decades know how to draft. It’s probably more crucial in the NFL than MLB due to sheer volume difference that you not miss often. Ted Thompson is doing that for the Pack and that’s their biggest advantage. Rodgers fell to them at 24th as nobody but the Niners needed a quarterback that year. GB did not, but Thompson couldn’t pass him up when he was still there. Without Rodgers, the pack in in the middle of the Pack. With him, well he’s already won one superbowl.

    • Seymour Butts

      I should have been a Bears fan living in Rensselaer, IN during my grade school years. The Bears trained there at the time and I rode my bike to many of their practices. I, somewhere, have signatures of Sayers, Piccolo, Jack Concannon, Butkus, maybe Ditka. But the Packers were my team from day one probably as they were big time winners in the 60’s. The Cubs have been mine due to WGN and I’ve stuck with both teams for 50years.
      The Bears have a good offence, they should not dick with it, but since Lovie left, the defense has been ignored. Cutler is better than any currently available option. I hope they dump him (I’m a Packer fan).
      Teams that are good for decades know how to draft. It’s probably more crucial in the NFL than MLB due to sheer volume difference that you not miss often. Ted Thompson is doing that for the Pack and that’s their biggest advantage. Rodgers fell to them at 24th as nobody but the Niners needed a quarterback that year. GB did not, but Thompson couldn’t pass him up when he was still there. Without Rodgers, the pack in in the middle of the Pack. With him, well he’s already won one superbowl.

  • Jedi

    The Bears problem is and has been QB. In any one of those years since their Super Bowl appearance, give them a Top 7 QB and they are in the playoffs and a legitimate threat. Which, by no coincidence, is why the Packers have been considered a consistent threat – they have a Top 7 QB.

    Compare the Bears seasons to the NY Giants. There isn’t a lot of difference in records, and both teams have been built around solid defenses (until this year). But the Giants won two titles because they have a QB who, in spite of his many faults, makes big plays in the postseason.

    • PLCB3

      Since the Bears lost the Super Bowl, the Packers have had a better season than the Bears 6 of those 7 years. The one year the Bears did better, both teams missed the playoffs.

    • AC0000000

      Since the Bears lost the Super Bowl, the Packers have had a better season than the Bears 6 of those 7 years. The one year the Bears did better, both teams missed the playoffs.

    • Dusty Baylor

      Very true..also give the Bears weapons like Jeffery and Bennett to go with Marshall…and they’d have been in the playoffs also.

    • Dusty Baylor

      Very true..also give the Bears weapons like Jeffery and Bennett to go with Marshall…and they’d have been in the playoffs also.

  • Doug S.

    Don’t follow the Bears closely, but I do know they’re one of those tough teams to bet on. They can look so good at times and other times….

    Sorry Caps, don’t really want to pile on here, but as a Jets fan, there’s no way….NO WAY…I could become a Fish or worse, a hated Patsy fan.

    At the start of the MLB playoffs I nicely asked the baseball gods to not give us a Red Sox-Cards WS. You guys know what happened. Now I’m asking the football gods….please…please no Patriots-Seahawks SB…..thanks.

    • PLCB3

      Why you not like Seattle?

      • Doug S.

        Probably because of all the nouveau Hawks fans that have popped up. Most of them don’t know much about football, which doesn’t stop them from being overly vocal. Wouldn’t mind seeing them shut up.

      • You guessed it…bunch of ship jumping former Bears fans who have been flamed.

      • You guessed it…bunch of ship jumping former Bears fans who have been flamed.

  • Doug S.

    Don’t follow the Bears closely, but I do know they’re one of those tough teams to bet on. They can look so good at times and other times….

    Sorry Caps, don’t really want to pile on here, but as a Jets fan, there’s no way….NO WAY…I could become a Fish or worse, a hated Patsy fan.

    At the start of the MLB playoffs I nicely asked the baseball gods to not give us a Red Sox-Cards WS. You guys know what happened. Now I’m asking the football gods….please…please no Patriots-Seahawks SB…..thanks.

  • Eddie Von White

    Not so nice a job of camouflaging an article about the Bears under Cubs innuendos.

    • I think the argument holds weight. In summation, a baseball team in a city fond of giant cornbread pizzas shouldn’t be like a football team in the same city.

  • Eddie Von White

    Not so nice a job of camouflaging an article about the Bears under Cubs innuendos.

  • Doc Raker

    Can you name the 4 Alou brothers that played together in the bigs?

    • PLCB3

      There were only 3 brothers, Felipe, Matty, and Jesus. Moises is Felipe’s son.

      • Doc Raker

        There was a 4th brother.

      • PLCB3

        Who’s the 4th?

      • Doc Raker

        Boog Powell, he was originally an Alou but changed hid name so he wouldn’t be know as Boog Alou.

      • Doc Raker

        Happy New Year All.

      • Seymour Butts

        And to you and yours!

      • I like the way we’re starting things off. This is nice.

      • Doc Raker

        Group hug for all that don’t smell like salami or marinara meatballs with ranch dressing.

  • Doc Raker

    Can you name the 4 Alou brothers that played together in the bigs?

  • Eddie Von White

    Looks like the Bears are acting like the Cubs – what with signing Cutler to a 7 year contract and all.

    • Seymour Butts

      I’m guessing Lovie will exceed expectations in Tampa.

    • Jedi

      Years don’t mean anything in the NFL – it’s only about the guaranteed money. Usually that’s earned of the first 2-4 years. So all the Bears are really saying is “he’s better than anyone else we think we can get and we certainly don’t want to risk losing him”…hard to disagree with them unless someone falls to them in the draft.

      • PLCB3

        55M is guaranteed. Which means cutting him during the first 3 years will be cap suicide.

      • Chuck

        You would think with tens of thousands of kids playing high school quarterback and hundreds of kids playing college quarterback every year, it would be easier to find more than 20 competent professional level quarterbacks at any one time. Maybe the rules of high school and college football need to be changed to support the development of professional grade QBs? Perhaps with the emphasis on winnings games (understandable since these guys are being paid to, you know, win games) at the high school level the coaches are going with what works versus developing QBs that can actually throw the ball. At the high school level the QB is, generally, the RB that happens to throw the ball the best and they use a lot of gimmicky offenses that emphasize running the ball. Unfortunately, while this works well in the unbalanced arena of high school football, it stunts the growth of potential professional caliber QBs because they don’t have to be able the throw the ball well in order to be successful or the guy who throws well, but is not the “athlete” never gets the chance to develop.

        I am just spitballing here, but how about making a rule where the offensive team can’t run the ball past the line of scrimmage until the distance to a first down is 5 yards or less? This would force teams to throw the ball and develop QBs that can actually throw the ball.

      • Noah_I

        A very large proportion of the kids playing high school quarterback, though, can’t really throw the ball, not in any sense that we’d consider it. Heck, a good number of college quarterbacks can’t throw the ball that well. Really what you’ve come into at most high schools these days is that the QB is the best all around athlete. It’s actually a lot easier to find a great athlete (strong/fast/agile combo) than it is to find someone who can do the small skills. Think of all the amazing athletes that are drafted in the MLB every year who never make it because they can’t find a way to make contact often enough?

        Most high school coaches are judged on the same thing college and NFL coaches are judged on: wins. Which is kind of sad, especially since 90 some percent of high school coaches have no control over their talent base, but they’re going to put their team in the best chance to win. For most teams playing with a random assortment of 16-18 year old kids, that doesn’t involve throwing the ball a lot.

      • cap’n Obvious

        how many kids are playing HS baseball globally vs. how many truly great top of the rotation pitchers there are in the world? I’d argue less than 20. There are plenty of competent, professional level QB’s out there, but less than 20 that are truly great. That’s why Cutler gets the $55 million without ever winning anything meaningful.

      • PLCB3

        He’s getting more than Flacco and Rodgers though.

      • Jedi

        So is Matt Ryan, big freakin deal. In the NFL, virtually everyone is on a 3-year deal at best. So even when you get a big contract you have to keep producing to keep that money train rolling.

      • Eddie Von White

        Tony Romo is in trouble then.

      • PLCB3

        With 54M guaranteed, cutting him before year 4 is cap suicide.

      • PLCB3

        Not when you give an enormous amount of guaranteed money

      • Jedi

        The guaranteed portion is nearly always front-loaded into the first 2-4 years…which is why so many players renegotiate a deal as soon as the guaranteed portion has been paid. Thus making a 7-year deal, something much more reasonable like 3 or 4 years. You seem to have a difficult time understanding the concept.

      • PLCB3

        The bonus is apportioned over the length of the deal. That’s why players will convert base salary into bonus money to free up a few dollars upfront but then hit the cap in future years.

        Hence why cutting Cutler before 4 years is cap suicide. His signing bonus will hit the cap 8M per year. Year 1, there will be an 8M hit. If they were to cut him after year 1, year 2 would accelerate the rest of the bonus money and the hit would be 48M. (Or 24M over 2 years if you designated him as a June 1 cut).

      • Jedi

        Which makes it effectively a 4 year deal – not 7. Certainly you can understand that.

      • PLCB3

        Cut him after year 4 and you have a 24M cap hit for year 5, still cap suicide. You can designate him a June 1 cut and make that hit 12M a year for 2 years, but that is still a lot of dead money on the cap.

      • PLCB3

        Turns out both of us are wrong:
        http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1909479-jay-cutler-analyzing-the-terms-of-his-new-contract

        No signing bonus but rather all base salary with the first 3 years guaranteed. Usually with a deal like this the guaranteed money is signing bonus with the rest base salary. So his base salary is the cap hit. They can can his ass after 3 years and not have a penny of dead money. Pretty genius move, but still a horrible contract

      • PLCB3

        Also Matt Ryan is a better QB than Jay Cutler

      • Also, how many of those elites get too caught up slinging bifocals, townhouses, or pacemakers and end up writing instead of receiving checks in Mesa?

      • Eddie Von White

        And eating giant cornbread pizzas.

      • I think they are all about rib steaks and filets. One guy is into surf and turf, which is of course a 6″ roast beef sub and 6″ tuna sub wrapped in the same paper.

      • Eddie Von White

        And eating giant cornbread pizzas.

  • Jedi

    Theriot retires. Apparently playing in the bigs again was “an unattainable goal” for the former heartthrob.

    https://twitter.com/ChrisCotillo/status/420051210633113601

  • Doc Raker

    While stranded at the Detroit Metropolitan Airport I was forced to eat a meatball sub on wheat from Subwhey, I left the ranch dressing off. Good to finally be back in 75 degree OC and eat a home made fresh salad and chicken off the grill.

    • PLCB3

      Meatball subs with ranch dressing eaten by me so far in 2014: Zero
      Meatball subs with ranch dressing that will have been eaten by me by December 31, 2014: Zero

      • Seymour Butts

        References to meatball subs with ranch dressing that will be made by you…countless.
        I spent a couple of hours last night watching the 2nd inning of Ken Burns Baseball series (1900-1910). The Cubs had a good decade, including the 1906 team that was 116-34, and considered the best team of all time. I can’t wait to see how the rest of the century turned out.

      • PLCB3

        Nope. I resolve from this point on not to talk about Subway again. No more meatball subs with ranch, no more sweet onion chicken teriyaki subs, no more sodium laced meats, no more raspberry cheesecake cookies. I’m getting serious about improving my health this year and step 1 is no Burger King, Wendy’s, Subway, McDonalds, KFC, Taco Bell, or Dunkin Donuts, period. None at all. Only exception is the rare occasions I need a soda or a coffee.

      • You’d be way better off axing the soda and keeping turkey / veggies in play.

      • PLCB3

        Soda is going to be getting a major cut-out too. But there are times when you just need caffeine which is the main reason I drink soda. My uncle caught on with my soda drinking ways too. He’s like you can’t be drinking 3-4 diet sodas a week. But Subway is still out. Because their bread is a nightmare for a diabetic. Wheat flour is just white flour. I’ve started eating sandwiches on Ezikel 4:9 bread.

      • Doc Raker

        Cut out soda all together, go with green tea if you need caffeine and go with Perrier if you need some carbonation. I just drink water, herb tea and Bushmills Irish Whiskey.

      • Here it’s Liters of coffee, Liters of beer, Liters and Liters of water. Liters of cab sauv with Mrs. Swanson in 187.5 mL increments. Liters of sun tea, seasonally.

      • Correct. Soda is from the devil.

      • Things go south in 1907, due to the promescuity of Cindy Sandberg and the resulting trades.

      • Doc Raker

        The Cubs did well in 1908. Cindy Sandberg got in Ken Burns pants, not his documentary.

      • cap’n obvious

        damned goat

      • cap’n obvious

        damned goat

    • Eddie Von White

      The Detroit airport is the worst place in the world to be stranded unless you are on a global warming ship stuck in ice in Antarctica.

      • PLCB3

        Do you speak from experience?

      • Eddie Von White

        Yes. I was stranded in the Detroit airport for 9 hours once.

      • PLCB3

        I was talking about the ship in Antarctica

      • Eddie Von White

        I am imagining that Detroit is a better place to be stranded than Antarctica.

      • Seymour Butts

        Might be a toss-up.

      • cap’n Obvious

        the weather in Detroit has been Antarctic of late. We need to stop our industries and economy from flourishing to save our mother earth from all of this very dangerous warming.

      • Jerry in Wisconsin

        Detroit is more exicting, Antarctica is safer, unless you go outside, than it is a toss-up.

      • Doc Raker

        Do you mean the ship that went to research why all the sea ice is melting that got stuck in the sea ice they claim isn’t there? That ship?

      • Eddie Von White

        That’s the one.

  • Eddie Von White

    Due to the inaction on this sight the last few days, I feared everyone had written VFTB off as a New Year’s resolution.

  • PLCB3

    Anyone going to the SABR Analytics Conference in Phoenix March 13-15? MLB.com just sent me an email about it.

    • I hear Raker’s pitching machine is delivering this year’s keynote…

      • Jerry in Wisconsin

        Sounds like it will be long and slow in the delivery.

      • Eddie Von White

        And every word will hang.

      • PLCB3

        Like a Will Ohman 40-foot curveball?

      • Eddie Von White

        Exactly the word picture I was trying to paint.

    • Doc Raker

      I have to cancel, my physics group is meeting that weekend. We have a speaker breaking down the optical aberrations in windshields. It might not be as riveting as the SABR conference but it should be good.