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The Winter Meetings are Happening. Aren't They?

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The Winter Meetings are happening as we speak.

 

You know, where baseball guys get together and do baseball stuff. Only this time, Theo and Jed seem to have missed the memo. The Cubs have done nothing. Nada. Zilch. Other teams have been doing plenty.

 

For example: Did you know that Curtis Granderson signed with the Mets last week? I didn’t. Turns out the same day that Robbie Cano signed his ridiculous deal, Granderson slipped from The Bronx to Queens right under our noses! What a sneaky guy! He’s only locked up for four years, so maybe he’ll have a good year or two left and he’ll bring his talents to the North Side. He is a Chicago native, after all. He belongs here.

 

The other Chicago team has made a deal as well. The White Sox acquired Adam Eaton in a trade that sent Hector Santiago to the Angels, Tyler Skaggs (from AZ) to LAA, and Mark Trumbo and two prospects to Arizona. I never would have imagined Trumbo moving. But you can describe baseball in just three words: “You just never know.”

 

I will admit I was sad when Trumbo went to AZ. Now, you SABR-heads probably are not that sad, because something about his OBP  wasn’t that great. But he hits for power, and Lord knows we need power. And starting pitching, infield defense, outfield defense, plate patience, guys with high OBP, and bullpen help.

 

Am I the only one whose head is reeling, trying to figure out what Theo and Jed are doing? Why they are doing nothing? WHAT ARE THEY DOING? I’m assuming it’s huge. It probably won’t be, but I like to entertain that thought in my head, just to keep things interesting.

 

If it wasn’t evident by the writing leading up to this point, I am anxious to see what Theo and Jed do. I would have liked to snag someone like Curtis Granderson and/or Mark Trumbo, but there is still time to find players with similar abilities for a much more affordable price. I don’t know where they are, but I’m trusting that Theo and Jed do.

I’m going to be very transparent and honest here. Bear with me:

I’m glad we have a (seemingly) spectacular farm system. But it seems like if we want well-developed players (which we do!) we are going to have to wait a few years. I’m tired of waiting. I can’t even imagine how my 104-year-old Aunt Rubie feels about it, let alone my father who is a mere three months away from senior citizen status.

Be honest, no need to sugarcoat anything (or be ruthlessly brash, either), but tell me how you really feel about what’s going on. I love being optimistic, but I’m getting worn out! I have faith that Theo and Jed will make good decisions. I just want to see them happening very, very soon.

 

Maybe by this time next week I’ll have learned how to be a little more patient. I’ll see you on the flip side!

  • Bones

    We all want it to happen now but just like Christmas morning we have to wait. Today or tomorrow Shark will be traded ( my guess is Blue Jays ) and we will have signed Axelrod and Chamberlain. More than likely Baker too. Will it help the team? Maybe but this front office is now feeling the heat from the fans to produce more wins at the MLB level and will at least make some moves just to say ,”We gave it a shot.” Just remember, the true last phase of the rebuild does not start until renovations start and a new TV deal is reached. Until then it is build from the bottom up.

  • Bones

    We all want it to happen now but just like Christmas morning we have to wait. Today or tomorrow Shark will be traded ( my guess is Blue Jays ) and we will have signed Axelrod and Chamberlain. More than likely Baker too. Will it help the team? Maybe but this front office is now feeling the heat from the fans to produce more wins at the MLB level and will at least make some moves just to say ,”We gave it a shot.” Just remember, the true last phase of the rebuild does not start until renovations start and a new TV deal is reached. Until then it is build from the bottom up.

  • PLCB3

    Are you hoping that the Cubs make a move for the sake of making a move?

    • Katie

      CAPS, what kind of question is that? Do you think I’ve forgotten the Jim Hendry saga? Don’t be silly.

      • Eddie Von White

        If I’m Mark Trumbo I’d be doing a commercial for Tru-Moo milk.

      • PLCB3

        With all his years in Anaheim, I’m surprised no one came up with a nickname like the one I did. Trumbo the Slugging Elephant. Dumbo’s long-lost cousin.

      • lol!

      • PLCB3

        In my over-worked under-paid sleep deprived state I didn’t even think of Jimmy Boy’s drunken half-billion dollar spending spree

  • AC0000000

    Are you hoping that the Cubs make a move for the sake of making a move?

    • Katie

      CAPS, what kind of question is that? Do you think I’ve forgotten the Jim Hendry saga? Don’t be silly.

      • Eddie Von White

        If I’m Mark Trumbo I’d be doing a commercial for Tru-Moo milk.

      • AC0000000

        With all his years in Anaheim, I’m surprised no one came up with a nickname like the one I did. Trumbo the Slugging Elephant. Dumbo’s long-lost cousin.

      • lol!

      • AC0000000

        In my over-worked under-paid sleep deprived state I didn’t even think of Jimmy Boy’s drunken half-billion dollar spending spree

  • Jerry in Wisconsin

    Theo and Jed should just have t-shirts created that read: The Hot Stove is cooking with gas, and as Cubs fans all we got was this t-shirt and the charred remains of those stupid enough to fall into the flames!

  • Jerry in Wisconsin

    Theo and Jed should just have t-shirts created that read: The Hot Stove is cooking with gas, and as Cubs fans all we got was this t-shirt and the charred remains of those stupid enough to fall into the flames!

  • Noah_I

    I think a part of it is that not all that many major moves really make sense for the Cubs. Choo and Ellsbury are the only two (considering the contract Cano got), and the Yankees probably made a slight overpay for Ellsbury (not saying it’s not a good move, but a slight overpay to tie him up early). I think Choo will get 6/$120 million, and I’d be fine with the Cubs signing him for that, and fine with him not signing for that.

    Regarding pitching, outside of trading for Price and Tanaka, the only starting pitchers available are mid-rotation guys, and how much would that really help the Cubs? I’m curious if the Cubs are waiting to see what happens with the posting rules for Japanese players before really going in on Tanaka.

    I’d say this: don’t place too much value on just having moves occurred at this point. Under Theo and Jed, the Cubs have been very active in the weeks following the winter meetings. These days, the winter meetings are much more about doing the legwork that eventually leads to a deal getting done than in fact getting deals done.

    • Katie

      I agree… It’s not Theo and Jed’s style to spend buco bucks on old-ish guys. I’m fine with that. I know they’ll find good guys. I’m just getting impatient. Of course I’d rather have them make smart, team-savvy moves than invest a lot in a washed up old guy. I’m just getting impatient.

      • PLCB3

        They got to do this right. Theo said 2015 when he took the job. I’ll start bitching if the 2015 team is not in playoff contention.

      • Jedi

        I’d really love to see a quote where Theo actually put a specific year to his plan – what I’ve seen and heard is that the Front Office evades that question with regularity. To my knowledge they have never put a specific year on the expectation of contending.

        I’d also love to know how you think the franchise, as currently constructed, could possibly contend in 2015 UNLESS major spending on free agents occurs next off-season?

      • Noah_I

        Re the 2015 thing, could I make an argument only including trades, or would you also consider that major free agent spending?

      • Jedi

        Noah – I’m one of the biggest proponents of pursuing all options available. The truth about the Cubs is that there aren’t enough mature assets to both trade and/or promote and in doing so create a playoff team.

        Feel free to make the argument, but promotion and trading will not be enough if it’s to be 2015. The Cubs will have to shell out big money to one, maybe two free agents if they want to become contenders in 16 months.

        Without a couple of major free agent signings, the date for a playoff contender is 2016 or later.

      • Jedi

        This is what I mean CAPS – even now they won’t commit to a timetable. They’re using the argument that they’re handcuffed by terms of the sale.

        http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/24322432-573/boras-says-major-market-cubs-should-be-retooling-rapidly.html

      • PLCB3

        Bora$$ opinion doesn’t count. He’s doing what’s best for him which is making sure his clients get paid more so he gets a bigger commission.
        As for the team’s finances, neither of us are Ricketts’ accountants, so who knows if he’s telling the truth or not. But come January 1, 2018, Ricketts will be able to start paying off that 600M debt he took on to buy the team. What I don’t understand is if Ricketts had the means to pay more cash, why people are worrying about this debt. If he has the means to pay it off, he should be fine when the loans come due.

      • Jedi

        That has nothing to do with my point here.

        You say the front office said 2015 would be the year. I’m telling you that they’ve steadfastly avoided committing to a year where the Cubs would compete. The SunTimes story I linked to says as much,

        “And not even Cubs officials are willing or able to offer a projection for when the franchise’s malaise —on the field and on the books — will abate.”

  • Noah_I

    I think a part of it is that not all that many major moves really make sense for the Cubs. Choo and Ellsbury are the only two (considering the contract Cano got), and the Yankees probably made a slight overpay for Ellsbury (not saying it’s not a good move, but a slight overpay to tie him up early). I think Choo will get 6/$120 million, and I’d be fine with the Cubs signing him for that, and fine with him not signing for that.

    Regarding pitching, outside of trading for Price and Tanaka, the only starting pitchers available are mid-rotation guys, and how much would that really help the Cubs? I’m curious if the Cubs are waiting to see what happens with the posting rules for Japanese players before really going in on Tanaka.

    I’d say this: don’t place too much value on just having moves occurred at this point. Under Theo and Jed, the Cubs have been very active in the weeks following the winter meetings. These days, the winter meetings are much more about doing the legwork that eventually leads to a deal getting done than in fact getting deals done.

    • Katie

      I agree… It’s not Theo and Jed’s style to spend buco bucks on old-ish guys. I’m fine with that. I know they’ll find good guys. I’m just getting impatient. Of course I’d rather have them make smart, team-savvy moves than invest a lot in a washed up old guy. I’m just getting impatient.

      • AC0000000

        They got to do this right. Theo said 2015 when he took the job. I’ll start bitching if the 2015 team is not in playoff contention.

      • Jedi

        I’d really love to see a quote where Theo actually put a specific year to his plan – what I’ve seen and heard is that the Front Office evades that question with regularity. To my knowledge they have never put a specific year on the expectation of contending.

        I’d also love to know how you think the franchise, as currently constructed, could possibly contend in 2015 UNLESS major spending on free agents occurs next off-season?

      • Noah_I

        Re the 2015 thing, could I make an argument only including trades, or would you also consider that major free agent spending?

      • Jedi

        Noah – I’m one of the biggest proponents of pursuing all options available. The truth about the Cubs is that there aren’t enough mature assets to both trade and/or promote and in doing so create a playoff team.

        Feel free to make the argument, but promotion and trading will not be enough if it’s to be 2015. The Cubs will have to shell out big money to one, maybe two free agents if they want to become contenders in 16 months.

      • Jedi

        This is what I mean CAPS – even now they won’t commit to a timetable. They’re using the argument that they’re handcuffed by terms of the sale.

        http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/24322432-573/boras-says-major-market-cubs-should-be-retooling-rapidly.html

      • AC0000000

        Bora$$ opinion doesn’t count. He’s doing what’s best for him which is making sure his clients get paid more so he gets a bigger commission.
        As for the team’s finances, neither of us are Ricketts’ accountants, so who knows if he’s telling the truth or not. But come January 1, 2018, Ricketts will be able to start paying off that 600M debt he took on to buy the team. What I don’t understand is if Ricketts had the means to pay more cash, why people are worrying about this debt. If he has the means to pay it off, he should be fine when the loans come due.

      • Jedi

        That has nothing to do with my point here.

        You say the front office said 2015 would be the year. I’m telling you that they’ve steadfastly avoided committing to a year where the Cubs would compete. The SunTimes story I linked to says as much,

        “And not even Cubs officials are willing or able to offer a projection for when the franchise’s malaise —on the field and on the books — will abate.”

  • Doc Raker

    I am bored, can we make fun of Seymour, CAPS or Jedi? JSwan you start.

    Goldschmidt and Trumbo in the same line up in the thin air of AZ sounds powerful.

    • Seymour: probably excited about this month’s Subway deal, which is $2 for a 6″ Cold Cut Combo or Meatball Marinara.
      CAPS: probably going to gross out a Subway employee by adding ranch to his $4 lunch tomorrow.
      Jedi: probably still an accountant.

      • PLCB3

        Nope. No more Subway for me. My doctor it’s bad for my health. Ranch dressing or no ranch dressing.

      • Who is your doctor? Wendy from Wendy’s?

      • PLCB3

        No Wendy’s either. Or Burger King. Or McDonald’s.

      • Jerry in Wisconsin

        The leaves Pizza the Hutt!

      • PLCB3

        No Pizza Hut near me

      • Jedi

        Get well CAPS – if he’s outlawing all that you must be in pretty bad shape.

      • PLCB3

        Very high blood sugar. I was supposed to be taking 2 metformin a day (1 2x a day) but I wasn’t taking it, now I have to take 2 pills 2x a day. Triglycerides were also very high so I need to start taking my simvastatin again. But they’re looking to get me off it in 3 months. I also had a really bad cough last month

      • Focus on eating lean protein and drinking water. Everything else will work itself out.

      • Doc Raker

        Maybe you should go with lean meats, complex carbs and low salt. For breakfast try three egg whites, 1 full egg, 2 table spoons of quinoa , half an avocado and half a glass of fresh OJ, do not drink OJ from concentrate. For lunch stay away from lunch meat, to much salt, fresh salads with chicken or fish for lunch. For dinner go with fresh meats and fish. Be careful at restaurants, all the foods that come out of packages have a lot of salt, ask what dishes are made fresh, fresh food is much healthier and tastier. Seymour makes fun of me because I whine if we don’t end up at a decent restaurant but it is hard to get fresh food at chain restaurants.

        You are to young to have these types of health issues. Put down your electronic devises, get off your a## , get moving and start eating right.

      • Jedi

        Did your doc prescribe any exercise?

      • PLCB3

        Starting today, my workout bag is coming with me to the office.

      • Not a physician, but I’d suggest adding reduced-fat-by-boiling-it-out-Ramen to that list.

      • PLCB3

        Ramen is off the menu. No white carbs.

      • Joe Aiello

        Just eat grass. It works for cows. Nevermind, Cows are fat. Carry on.

      • Katie

        If this isn’t a Lizzie…

      • Alas, I finished this week’s Lizzies before anyone commented on this post. But it’s all fair game for next week!!!

      • Eddie Von White

        Not necessarily – milk cows convert their energy intake into producing milk and poop. The average dairy cow eats 100 lbs of feed a day, drinks 35 gallons of water, produces 10 gallons of milk, and poops and pees 125 pounds of crap.

      • Joe Aiello

        They spout 125 lbs of crap a day? Goodness, that sounds a lot like sports talk radio hosts.

      • Eddie Von White

        The commonality is uncanny.

      • *assuming 1 gal water =1 gal milk = 1 lb

      • Jedi

        That’s an outstanding pull.

      • Chuck

        Just eat a lunch meat sandwich for lunch and if that does not do the trick add a salad. It works for me most days.

      • Eddie Von White

        I can tell you from personal experience – start running two miles every day and you won’t want all that crap going in your gut.

  • Doc Raker

    I am bored, can we make fun of Seymour, CAPS or Jedi? JSwan you start.

    Goldschmidt and Trumbo in the same line up in the thin air of AZ sounds powerful.

    • Seymour: probably excited about this month’s Subway deal, which is $2 for a 6″ Cold Cut Combo or Meatball Marinara.
      CAPS: probably going to gross out a Subway employee by adding ranch to his $4 lunch tomorrow.
      Jedi: probably still an accountant.

      • AC0000000

        Nope. No more Subway for me. My doctor said it’s bad for my health. Ranch dressing or no ranch dressing.

      • Who is your doctor? Wendy from Wendy’s?

      • AC0000000

        No Wendy’s either. Or Burger King. Or McDonald’s.

      • Jerry in Wisconsin

        The leaves Pizza the Hutt!

      • AC0000000

        No Pizza Hut near me

      • Jedi

        Get well CAPS – if he’s outlawing all that you must be in pretty bad shape.

      • AC0000000

        Very high blood sugar. I was supposed to be taking 2 metformin a day (1 2x a day) but I wasn’t taking it, now I have to take 2 pills 2x a day. Triglycerides were also very high so I need to start taking my simvastatin again. But they’re looking to get me off it in 3 months. I also had a really bad cough last month

      • Focus on eating lean protein and drinking water. Everything else will work itself out.

      • Doc Raker

        Maybe you should go with lean meats, complex carbs and low salt. For breakfast try three egg whites, 1 full egg, 2 table spoons of quinoa , half an avocado and half a glass of fresh OJ, do not drink OJ from concentrate. For lunch stay away from lunch meat, to much salt, fresh salads with chicken or fish for lunch. For dinner go with fresh meats and fish. Be careful at restaurants, all the foods that come out of packages have a lot of salt, ask what dishes are made fresh, fresh food is much healthier and tastier. Seymour makes fun of me because I whine if we don’t end up at a decent restaurant but it is hard to get fresh food at chain restaurants.

        You are to young to have these types of health issues. Put down your electronic devises, get off your a## , get moving and start eating right.

      • Jedi

        Did your doc prescribe any exercise?

      • AC0000000

        Starting today, my workout bag is coming with me to the office.

      • Not a physician, but I’d suggest adding reduced-fat-by-boiling-it-out-Ramen to that list.

      • AC0000000

        Ramen is off the menu. No white carbs.

      • Joe Aiello

        Just eat grass. It works for cows. Nevermind, Cows are fat. Carry on.

      • Katie

        If this isn’t a Lizzie…

      • Alas, I finished this week’s Lizzies before anyone commented on this post. But it’s all fair game for next week!!!

      • Eddie Von White

        Not necessarily – milk cows convert their energy intake into producing milk and poop. The average dairy cow eats 100 lbs of feed a day, drinks 35 gallons of water, produces 10 gallons of milk, and poops and pees 125 pounds of crap.

      • Joe Aiello

        They spout 125 lbs of crap a day? Goodness, that sounds a lot like sports talk radio hosts.

      • Eddie Von White

        The commonality is uncanny.

      • *assuming 1 gal water =1 gal milk = 1 lb

      • Jedi

        That’s an outstanding pull.

      • Chuck

        Just eat a lunch meat sandwich for lunch and if that does not do the trick add a salad. It works for me most days.

      • Eddie Von White

        I can tell you from personal experience – start running two miles every day and you won’t want all that crap going in your gut.

  • Doug S.

    Great post Katie, especially…
    “But you can describe baseball in just three words: “You just never know.””
    Love it.

    “Lord knows we need power. And starting pitching, infield defense, outfield defense, plate patience, guys with high OBP, and bullpen help”

    Nice to know our base running is solid as is.

    • Jerry in Wisconsin

      I think that meant that the baserunning is beyond help.

    • Katie

      Ah crap! I knew I was forgetting something. Thanks for catching that. Speaking of catching… how’s your hand-eye coordination? Can you play center field?

  • Doug S.

    Great post Katie, especially…
    “But you can describe baseball in just three words: “You just never know.””
    Love it.

    “Lord knows we need power. And starting pitching, infield defense, outfield defense, plate patience, guys with high OBP, and bullpen help”

    Nice to know our base running is solid as is.

    • Jerry in Wisconsin

      I think that meant that the baserunning is beyond help.

    • Katie

      Ah crap! I knew I was forgetting something. Thanks for catching that. Speaking of catching… how’s your hand-eye coordination? Can you play center field?

  • PLCB3

    The Cubs announced today that Mark Prior will have a statue built outside of Wrigley Field. It will be made of glass and the right arm will be in a sling.

    • Chuck

      With a statue of Dusty behind him with a whip.

  • AC0000000

    The Cubs announced today that Mark Prior will have a statue built outside of Wrigley Field. It will be made of glass and the right arm will be in a sling.

    • Chuck

      With a statue of Dusty behind him with a whip.

  • PLCB3

    Smokehouse to the Mets 2 years 20M. I wish we had signed him last year. He made 30 starts.

  • AC0000000

    Smokehouse to the Mets 2 years 20M. I wish we had signed him last year. He made 30 starts.