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Keep Your Heads Up Cubs Fans

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This is a post for Cubs fans.

Fans of a team that, at the moment, are seemingly spinning their wheels in the proverbial mud.  Fans of a team that with each new signing, trade, and scrap of news loose a little bit of hope.  Fans of a team that simply are exhausted.

Where do you fall in? Optimistic? Pessimistic? Confused by the big words (This isn’t a White Sox blog!)?

Everyday I turn on my computer and iphone hoping for a glimmer of life.  A team that is in desperate need of outfielders, pitching, bullpen help, and quality bench players.  That is a lot of needs right?  Not really.  A lot of teams need a lot of things.  They also make desperation plays like trading Doug Fister for a mediocre prospect and some bullpen help.  Do you want to be that team?  Or do you want to be the team that is okay with sending a stud prospect like Taijuan Walker to the Rays for David Price, arm issues and all?  (Hasn’t happened but is rumored)

My biggest issue when waking up and looking at the Cubs news it the pessimism.  Everyone realizes that you aren’t bound by any contractual relationship to be a Cubs fan?  Now this isn’t a holier than though piece.  This is simply a slow your ‘tude message.  A lot of back and forth on message boards and disgust being thrown around.

Take a chill pill fans.  Take a moment to realize that we have one of the best, if not the best, farm systems in the entire league.  Hit or miss that is an accomplishment.  You can’t hit on prospects if you don’t have them to begin with.  Not only that, it will be better before the end of this off season mark my words.  More talent will be infused in this system that will provide ample opportunity to lead to success in the near future.

I don’t want to be a fan of a middle of the road team.  I like seeing a team contend.  If they can’t contend this year, so be it.  At the very least I don’t have unreasonable expectations.  We have a very honest and open front office.  They are spreading unreasonable expectations.

Here are some things you can look forward to in the next 90 days:

1. Trades for B to B+ pitching prospects that are a year or two from ready

2. Signing of more flippable assets

3. A significant trade that changes next season (this is a toss up, most likely for the worse)

4. A major play for Tanaka

Keep your heads up Cubs fans.  All isn’t lost.

  • Doc Raker

    Holden, are you running for office? The Cubs will be good soon and Obamacare is working, pay no attention to those inferior limited plans that cost 3X as much as your previous plan you got kicked off of.

    • Jerry in Wisconsin

      You forgot the news that the antaric ice cap is at a 35 year high, the last time they had that much ice the doomsday talkers were selling that the ice age was coming soon

      • Chuck

        Actually, the Earth should be going into a cooling period and is not. That is the reality of the situation. While “global warming” should stave off the scheduled ice age, the normal warm period stating 15,000 years from now will probably obliterate life as we know it. Humans, pretty much, now have a countdown clock of 15,000 years for when we have to colonize space or go extinct.

      • Jerry in Wisconsin

        Are you sure that an meteorite won’t hit us first?

      • Chuck

        Probably as likely as the Large Hadron Collider creating a small black hole and causing the Earth to implode.

      • Doc Raker

        The earth is 4,500,000,000 years old, it has never been static, always changing yet people think they can control the climate and predict the future of the earth. The sun is just starting to be studied, very little is known about the sun yet people think they can predict the future climate. You geniuses think the sun has something to do with the earth’s climate cycles? Fools trust the hubris of man.

      • Chuck

        I’m sure that the billions of tons of CO2 emitted into the atmosphere has no impact on anything. Fools stick their head in the sand and pretend nothing is happening. Now the debate on whether or not global warming is a good or bad thing is a completely different animal.

      • Doc Raker

        As data comes in CO2 emissions does correlate with the global warming theory. The man made CO2 global warming theory isn’t holding up as time goes by. That is the fact. The climate hustlers preaching from the altar of global warming ignore this fact as does everyone in the pews, but real scientist are reporting the truth.

      • Chuck

        I, respectfully, disagree and I will leave it at that.

      • Seymour Butts

        If you substitute “low” for “high” your statement would be more accurate. Total global sea ice has declined about 5% per decade over those 35 years you mention. The source of your half truth information was the growth in the ice cap that occurs every winter. There is more now than in August, just as every year, but less than prior Novembers.

        Here is a real science link if you care:

        http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
        Global warming is real, but not likely to affect us personally in our lifetimes, and the contribution that man has made, and can alter, is what is debatable. Denying it’s existence places you on a scientific plane with caps. Hardly enviable.

      • Doc Raker

        “the contribution that man has made, and can alter (the climate), is what is debatable.” Exactly, whether man plays a significant role in the earths climate is debatable. The most recent 15 years of global cooling throws a wrench in the global warming claim but as you say, and I agree Seymour, man’s roll in the climate is debatable, not factual. So why give politicians so much power to fix a problem in which there is so much scientific debate?

      • Doc Raker

        Did you note that the link you sent claims sea ice in the antartic are above the 1981-2010 average? So the artic is slightly below the 1981-2010 average and the antartic is slightly above the same average. Interesting, if we take this as fact it really tells us a net no change in sea ice for the globe. Any analysis pointing to man is political, not scientific.

  • Doc Raker

    Holden, are you running for office? The Cubs will be good soon and Obamacare is working, pay no attention to those inferior limited plans that cost 3X as much as your previous plan you got kicked off of.

    • Jerry in Wisconsin

      You forgot the news that the antaric ice cap is at a 35 year high, the last time they had that much ice the doomsday talkers were selling that the ice age was coming soon

      • Chuck

        Actually, the Earth should be going into a cooling period and is not. That is the reality of the situation. While “global warming” should stave off the scheduled ice age, the normal warm period stating 15,000 years from now will probably obliterate life as we know it. Humans, pretty much, now have a countdown clock of 15,000 years for when we have to colonize space or go extinct.

      • Jerry in Wisconsin

        Are you sure that an meteorite won’t hit us first?

      • Chuck

        Probably as likely as the Large Hadron Collider creating a small black hole and causing the Earth to implode.

      • Doc Raker

        The earth is 4,500,000,000 years old, it has never been static, always changing yet people think they can control the climate and predict the future of the earth. The sun is just starting to be studied, very little is known about the sun yet people think they can predict the future climate. You geniuses think the sun has something to do with the earth’s climate cycles? Fools trust the hubris of man.

      • Chuck

        I’m sure that the billions of tons of CO2 emitted into the atmosphere has no impact on anything. Fools stick their head in the sand and pretend nothing is happening. Now the debate on whether or not global warming is a good or bad thing is a completely different animal.

      • Doc Raker

        As data comes in CO2 emissions does correlate with the global warming theory. The man made CO2 global warming theory isn’t holding up as time goes by. That is the fact. The climate hustlers preaching from the altar of global warming ignore this fact as does everyone in the pews, but real scientist are reporting the truth.

      • Chuck

        I, respectfully, disagree and I will leave it at that.

      • Seymour Butts

        If you substitute “low” for “high” your statement would be more accurate. Total global sea ice has declined about 5% per decade over those 35 years you mention. The source of your half truth information was the growth in the ice cap that occurs every winter. There is more now than in August, just as every year, but less than prior Novembers.

        Here is a real science link if you care:

        http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
        Global warming is real, but not likely to affect us personally in our lifetimes, and the contribution that man has made, and can alter, is what is debatable. Denying it’s existence places you on a scientific plane with caps. Hardly enviable.

      • Doc Raker

        “the contribution that man has made, and can alter (the climate), is what is debatable.” Exactly, whether man plays a significant role in the earths climate is debatable. The most recent 15 years of global cooling throws a wrench in the global warming claim but as you say, and I agree Seymour, man’s roll in the climate is debatable, not factual. So why give politicians so much power to fix a problem in which there is so much scientific debate?

      • Doc Raker

        Did you note that the link you sent claims sea ice in the antartic are above the 1981-2010 average? So the artic is slightly below the 1981-2010 average and the antartic is slightly above the same average. Interesting, if we take this as fact it really tells us a net no change in sea ice for the globe. Any analysis pointing to man is political, not scientific.

  • Doug S.

    A post for Cubs fans, that’d be me. Starts with “Keep your heads up” followed by some things to look forward to including “this is a toss up, most likely for the worse” ends with “All isn’t lost”……………Sounds about right.

  • Doug S.

    A post for Cubs fans, that’d be me. Starts with “Keep your heads up” followed by some things to look forward to including “this is a toss up, most likely for the worse” ends with “All isn’t lost”……………Sounds about right.

  • Jedi

    Yes – the team that’s won the AL Central 3 straight years and made a WS appearance, that’s the team we DON’T want to be like. Please, make us nothing like a successful team loaded with pitchers and hitters trying to plug seemingly insignificant holes every offseason. That would be the worst.

    By the way, just look back on this piece from 2011:
    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2011/news/story?id=6260867&src=mobile

    The headline is “With MLB’s best farm system, the long-suffering Royals intend to get the last laugh” – sound familiar?

    It heralded the following players:

    Mike Moustakas – now a bust
    Eric Hosmer – doing pretty well
    Mike Montgomery – getting hit hard at AAA
    John Lamb – getting hit hard at AAA
    Chris Dwyer – 2 MLB appearances, nothing special at AAA
    Danny Duffy – back & forth between the minors and MLB
    Wil Myers – traded to the Rays and won the ROY

    So of the 7 guys that were profiled PRECEEDING the 2011 season (3 full seasons ago now – before the Cubs had Theo), 2 have panned out. The pitchers have all bombed to some extent, and the only superstar asset was traded before he played in the bigs.

    From the article, “But that’s what Dayton Moore sells. He sells 2012 or 2103 and definitely 2014. He sells the idea that his garage band is starting to sound like something you’ll want to brag about discovering someday.” That’s exactly the same crap the Cubs are selling. Anyone here think the Royals are WS contenders anytime in the next decade? Me neither.

  • Jedi

    Yes – the team that’s won the AL Central 3 straight years and made a WS appearance, that’s the team we DON’T want to be like. Please, make us nothing like a successful team loaded with pitchers and hitters trying to plug seemingly insignificant holes every offseason. That would be the worst.

    By the way, just look back on this piece from 2011:
    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2011/news/story?id=6260867&src=mobile

    The headline is “With MLB’s best farm system, the long-suffering Royals intend to get the last laugh” – sound familiar?

    It heralded the following players:

    Mike Moustakas – now a bust
    Eric Hosmer – doing pretty well
    Mike Montgomery – getting hit hard at AAA
    John Lamb – getting hit hard at AAA
    Chris Dwyer – 2 MLB appearances, nothing special at AAA
    Danny Duffy – back & forth between the minors and MLB
    Wil Myers – traded to the Rays and won the ROY

    So of the 7 guys that were profiled PRECEEDING the 2011 season (3 full seasons ago now – before the Cubs had Theo), 2 have panned out. The pitchers have all bombed to some extent, and the only superstar asset was traded before he played in the bigs.

    From the article, “But that’s what Dayton Moore sells. He sells 2012 or 2013 and definitely 2014. He sells the idea that his garage band is starting to sound like something you’ll want to brag about discovering someday.” That’s exactly the same crap the Cubs are selling. Anyone here think the Royals are WS contenders anytime in the next decade? Me neither.

  • flyslinger2

    I think the Cubs fan base is fairly jaded at this point. I perceive that the failure of ObamaCare and it’s leadership is providing much more entertainment value then what the Cubs will for at least two to three more years.

    I went to the NJ shore two weeks ago to fish for striper. I was wearing my Cubs baseball hat. The store owner said “I’m sorry.” I responded “for what?” “The Cubs!” “It’s ok. When I get to heaven God is going to usher me to the front of the line and He will say ‘I’m rewarding you for your patience which exceeded Job’s!'” The whole store full of men laughed.

    I think that sums it up. The Cubs fan base is saintly and we don’t hang our hats on momentary tweets of false hopes.

  • flyslinger2

    I think the Cubs fan base is fairly jaded at this point. I perceive that the failure of ObamaCare and it’s leadership is providing much more entertainment value then what the Cubs will for at least two to three more years.

    I went to the NJ shore two weeks ago to fish for striper. I was wearing my Cubs baseball hat. The store owner said “I’m sorry.” I responded “for what?” “The Cubs!” “It’s ok. When I get to heaven God is going to usher me to the front of the line and He will say ‘I’m rewarding you for your patience which exceeded Job’s!'” The whole store full of men laughed.

    I think that sums it up. The Cubs fan base is saintly and we don’t hang our hats on momentary tweets of false hopes.

  • Jerry in Wisconsin

    I am in wait and see mode. Thus far Theo and Jed have proven they can add minor league talent, and make trades for minor league talent, but we have not seen if they can add major league talent in the current environment where teams are smarter than letting David Ortiz free for nothing. The other thing we need to see is if the purse strings will be loosened for a frontline pitcher when one finnally becomes available on the free agent market, because the Cubs absolutely need to sign an ace right now or very soon.

  • Jerry in Wisconsin

    I am in wait and see mode. Thus far Theo and Jed have proven they can add minor league talent, and make trades for minor league talent, but we have not seen if they can add major league talent in the current environment where teams are smarter than letting David Ortiz free for nothing. The other thing we need to see is if the purse strings will be loosened for a frontline pitcher when one finnally becomes available on the free agent market, because the Cubs absolutely need to sign an ace right now or very soon.

  • Chuck

    Personally, I am pessimistic for the immediate future and fairly optimistic for the future (2+ years from now) because the team management has shown zero interest in signing good players (borderline All-Stars or better) via free agency and the current crop of minor leaguers (Vitters, Jackson, their ilk) are, pretty much, busts. However, the lower minors (AA and below) are stacked with good prospects that should produce one or two good players.

    I am hoping that 2013 will be the nadir of the Cubs rebuilding project but 2014 could be worse if they trade Shark and/or Castro for prospects without replacing them with anyone of note.

  • Chuck

    Personally, I am pessimistic for the immediate future and fairly optimistic for the future (2+ years from now) because the team management has shown zero interest in signing good players (borderline All-Stars or better) via free agency and the current crop of minor leaguers (Vitters, Jackson, their ilk) are, pretty much, busts. However, the lower minors (AA and below) are stacked with good prospects that should produce one or two good players.

    I am hoping that 2013 will be the nadir of the Cubs rebuilding project but 2014 could be worse if they trade Shark and/or Castro for prospects without replacing them with anyone of note.