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Why Do Cub Fans Watch With Blinders?

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I threw a simple tweet out this morning that caused me to realize why I get frustrated with the Cubs fan base more than any other fan base of a team I root for. I simply mentioned that Darwin Barney was a potential non-tender candidate, since he is arbitration eligible this off-season. Instantly, I had a few people reply via tweet and comment on Facebook that they felt that would be a mistake.

Rather than debate on if I agree or not (I don’t), I wanted to share my frustration with you. What frustrates me is the fact that people in this fan base get attached to a player for whatever reason and then fail to see when that player hurts the team by being a part of it. For me, as a kid, it was Rey Sanchez. I saw him and thought he was a building block. For a lot of folks it was Ryan Theriot for either an infatuation with him as a “grinder” or an infatuation with him from a physical standpoint. Whatever the reason, we suddenly put our Cubbie blinders on and fail to think bigger picture.

I don’t know about you, but I’m tired of watching a loser. I’m tired of checking out on the season come August. I want to consistently root for my team deep into October year in and year out. This week I want to take a look at the team as it’s currently constructed to see where we stand. In the meantime, let’s drop some links and prepare for our week.

  • John Heyman put up an interesting rumor that perhaps the Cubs and the Marlins would consider w0rking on a prospect trade. You don’t see it too often, but there are times when teams will make a major trade involving nothing more than prospects. The Marlins are loaded from a pitching standpoint and the Cubs are the opposite, with quite a bit of offensive talent, particularly at the third base position. It’s an interesting thought, but it’s tough to just swap guys you brought in the organization for other prospects. I think the pitching is coming along in the organization. We’re seeing some arms emerge near the top of the prospect rankings so it’s just a matter of those guys continuing to develop.
  • A couple of minor signings to report, all of them minor league contracts. Jeudy Valdez and Aaron Cunningham as well Walter Ibarra have all signed deals to play in the organization this season.
  • Kris Bryant was named the winner of the Arizona Fall League MVP. He engaged beast mode the entire time he was there and when the dust settled, he led the league with home runs (6), slugging percentage (.727), extra-base hits (15), runs scored (22-tie), total bases (56-tie) and a 20-game on-base-streak. He also hit .364, fifth best in the AFL, and was second in doubles with eight. In the past, both Jason Dubois and Sam Fuld won the award representing the Cubs. Let’s hope Bryant’s career doesn’t go the same path as those two.
  • CAPS called for news about fat people the other day so I figure I will deliver. In case you missed this story on Deadspin last week, Tony Picard is a beast of a running back for his high school team. He checks in a 6’4″ and 400lbs.
  • Dateline: Michigan – A man has purchased the home right next to his ex-wife and has erected a giant middle finger display just to remind her how much he cares.
  • Doc Raker

    Fans of all teams get attached to players, it is not just the Cubs. I am for any move that makes the Cubs better but the greatest game of baseball is such an intricate game the definition there in of ‘better’ is open for debate. If we had no reason for debate we would have no need for blogs like yours to exist. Embrace the debate, don’t get frustrated………….after all Darwin Barney is a gold glover……..

  • Doc Raker

    Fans of all teams get attached to players, it is not just the Cubs. I am for any move that makes the Cubs better but the greatest game of baseball is such an intricate game the definition there in of ‘better’ is open for debate. If we had no reason for debate we would have no need for blogs like yours to exist. Embrace the debate, don’t get frustrated………….after all Darwin Barney is a gold glover……..

  • PLCB3

    I saw that this weekend. He has the makings to be the next fridge.

    • Seymour Butts

      He has the make up to empty the next fridge.

      • PLCB3

        Remember back in 2001 when the Bears had Keith Traylor and Ted Washington, 2 run stuffing tackles? Traylor was 350 lbs, Washington was 400 lbs. Refrigerator Perry would be an undersized lineman today.

      • Jerry in Wisconsin

        I thought you were a Packers fan

      • PLCB3

        Regardless I still remember them having those 2 monster tackles.

      • Jedi

        Undersized? At 6ft2 335lbs? He’s basically the same size as BJ Raji and Ryan Pickett. You hyperbolize all the time about everything.

      • PLCB3

        I thought he was lighter as a player at 300 lbs. He weighs more now in retirement than he did as a player.

      • Jedi

        CAPS, read: http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2010/news/story?id=6091766

        This is not an old story. It’s not hard to find. He was drafted at 325lbs, and even that was likely generous. Ditka battled him over his weight after just one season in the league when he reported to his second training camp at 340lbs+. “His highest unconfirmed playing weight was 382.”

        Just because you think something doesn’t make it true.

      • PLCB3

        My apologies. I was uninformed. But since William Perry is the fridge, BJ Raji is the freezer

      • AC0000000

        Remember back in 2001 when the Bears had Keith Traylor and Ted Washington, 2 run stuffing tackles? Traylor was 350 lbs, Washington was 400 lbs. Refrigerator Perry would be an undersized lineman today.

      • Jedi

        Undersized? At 6ft2 335lbs? He’s basically the same size as BJ Raji and Ryan Pickett. You hyperbolize all the time about everything.

  • AC0000000

    I saw that this weekend. He has the makings to be the next fridge.

  • Sean Powell

    Just looked at FanGraphs (sorry to those of you who hate adding, subtracting, and long-division – there is no “bellyfire” category) – Barney’s DEF/OFF split is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen. Rabid fans of Barney and Campana were always the most rabid haters of Soriano….ugh. Anyway, the 400 lb. running back sounds awesome; he must be related to Dan Vogelbach.

  • Sean Powell

    Just looked at FanGraphs (sorry to those of you who hate adding, subtracting, and long-division – there is no “bellyfire” category) – Barney’s DEF/OFF split is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen. Rabid fans of Barney and Campana were always the most rabid haters of Soriano….ugh. Anyway, the 400 lb. running back sounds awesome; he must be related to Dan Vogelbach.

    • Is there a “let’s watch a bunch of non-STEM dudes do pretend math” category? I’d be all over that.

  • Tomas Checkosky

    Joe, its actually really easy to grasp this whole ‘watch w/ blinders’ thing. A Cub fan goes into every year knowing we aint gonna win! So we latch onto a player(s) to make the season bearable. Like the infatuation with Augie Ojeda, Doug Dascenzo and Reed Johnson…

    • Tomas Checkosky

      Reed Johnson in 2011: 5 walks and 63 strikeouts…eesh!

      • Seymour Butts

        But he played hard.

      • Purportedly.

      • Seymour Butts

        But he played hard.

      • Jedi

        Tomas – simple question, was Reed Johnson good for the Cubs or bad for the Cubs in 2011?

      • Jedi

        Tomas – simple question, was Reed Johnson good for the Cubs or bad for the Cubs in 2011?

  • Tomas Checkosky

    Joe, its actually really easy to grasp this whole ‘watch w/ blinders’ thing. A Cub fan goes into every year knowing we aint gonna win! So we latch onto a player(s) to make the season bearable. Like the infatuation with Augie Ojeda, Doug Dascenzo and Reed Johnson…

  • Doc Raker

    Was Mark Grudzilanek good for the Cubs in 2003? I liked Todd Walker but I thought the Cubs should of kept Grudzilanek.

    • PLCB3

      Grudz was awesome for the 2003 team. Todd Walker was 2004 and was the starter because Grudz was injured half the year.

      • cap’n Obvious

        Walker was the starter because the Cubs didnt have any other decent option. He batted 2nd because he was left handed. Dusty Baker was an idiot.

      • PLCB3

        He was brought in to be a bench player. Grudz was the starter until he got hurt.

      • Doc Raker

        But in 2005 they let Grudz go and signed Walker to be the everyday 2b man, not a good move in my opinion. Bring back Grudz!

      • PLCB3

        Well Grudz was old. injured, asking for too much money, and Walker said he would only come back if he was the starter. I saw nothing wrong with the move, plus he was reunited with his partner in crime from Boston, Nomah!

      • Doc Raker

        I know and I liked Walker but he was an inferior second baseman and Grudz was the high on base 2 hitter and went on the play in KC with pretty good numbers. I thought his talents were under rated due to all the power on the team but he was a guy who was on base a lot for all those power guys and played good D. Keeping Walker wasn’t a terrible move but debatable for sure. Grudz was underrated by the Dodgers and then by the Cubs in my opinion. 2003 doesn’t happen without Grudz and Karros coming over from the Dodgers for Todd Hundley, one of the best trades in Cubs history.

      • PLCB3

        Agreed on 2003, that was probably Hendry’s best move, along with Lofton, Ramirez, and Simon for Bobby Hill.

      • Doc Raker

        Yes, we loved Hendry then didn’t we. Great trades for sure.

      • AC0000000

        Agreed on 2003, that was probably Hendry’s best move, along with Lofton, Ramirez, and Simon for Bobby Hill.

      • Doc Raker

        Yes, we loved Hendry then didn’t we. Great trades for sure.

      • cap’n Obvious

        Walker was the starter because the Cubs didnt have any other decent option. He batted 2nd because he was left handed. Dusty Baker was an idiot.

  • Doc Raker

    Was Mark Grudzilanek good for the Cubs in 2003? I liked Todd Walker but I thought the Cubs should of kept Grudzilanek.

  • flyslinger2

    There are those of us, not me, who thrive on the technicality and statistics of the game. And those types, many of which hang out on this website because they got kicked out of the dating chat rooms on the internet, make analyzing players somewhat bearable. I will admit that it sometimes causes my eyes to roll back into my skull. There are those, <————— arrow pointing to that devilish good looking picture that is my avatar, who are romanticists and absorb the game as a pure escape from stupid customers. I would probably be one of those who would hang onto a player longer then I should because they played well at one point and there good memories with that. So if you want to punt Sammy off of the team cause he's juiced, then I'll just got stomp off to my room in a huff and not turn the Cubs back on until the next game is aired.

    Keep doing what you do. It makes it interesting.

  • PLCB3

    How did your Tough Mudder run go, Joe?

  • Eddie Von White

    I was without Internet for two days thanks to the tornado in Illinois on Sunday. I’m a little late in the conversation, but if it weren’t for certain personalities on the team, why would anyone watch? Nobody is going to turn on the Cubs and suddenly become a fan unless there is someone there to fall in love with. Our first love is not laundry – it is personalities.

    • PLCB3

      But it eventually leads to us cheering for laundry

  • Eddie Von White

    I was without Internet for two days thanks to the tornado in Illinois on Sunday. I’m a little late in the conversation, but if it weren’t for certain personalities on the team, why would anyone watch? Nobody is going to turn on the Cubs and suddenly become a fan unless there is someone there to fall in love with. Our first love is not laundry – it is personalities.

    • AC0000000

      But it eventually leads to us cheering for laundry