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Game 56 – Bullpen Blows (Another Lead)

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Box Score / Highlights

Star of the Game – Albert Pujols – .455 (WPA)


Castro’s Body Language
The Cubs All-Star shortstop was moved down to 7th in the order on Tuesday night, in a bid to get him going at the plate. This is the first Cubs’ game I’ve attended in 2013, and I don’t like Castro’s lack of aggression. In previous seasons he’s been, at times, recklessly aggressive. I’ve always thought it was a big factor in what made him so effective – the game comes naturally for him, and yet recently on TV and last night in person, it looks like Castro is thinking way too much. For several weeks he’s been uncharacteristically NOT dynamic. Hopefully something soon will jolt him into that old version of himself that plays the game a bit recklessly.

Bullpen…Again
I know it’s terribly popular to rip Sveum anytime he takes the ball from one pitcher and passes it to another. Either it’s too soon, too late, not the right incoming pitcher, the list of complaints is long. Tuesday night is a good example of why that type of Monday morning quarterbacking is preposterous. Scott Feldman was really good, but through six innings he’d thrown 95 pitches. I figured we’d see someone new to start the 7th – but who? Well Dale probably had just as much trouble picking a reliever, so he let Feldman pitch to the first two batters of the 7th before inserting Russell to mop up the mess. With a 1-run lead, he called on the Carlos we hate to love. Villanueva gave up the deciding 2-run blast to Cub nemesis, Albert Pujols.

Plenty of fans have been griping about the recent use of the Carlos we love to hate. Marmol has been bad so far in June. Against the Angels, the other Carlos was just as bad. But what’s Dale supposed to do? Gregg is the defacto closer – even if the guys in front of him seem to guarantee he’ll never get another save opportunity. Parker, Putnam, and Rondon are all still wearing their MLB diapers. Dale probably has very little feel for what pitches they throw in which situations, let alone what he might expect from them in a given matchup. That leaves two Carlos’ and your situational lefty who has regularly been doing an inning of duty. It’s a no-win proposition most nights; and my overriding concern after the 6th ended was how the Cubs could patch together 6 outs to get Gregg a freakin’ appearance (let alone save opportunity). But they couldn’t, and it didn’t at all surprise me. When you eat the rancid meat, don’t be surprised if you’re doubled over in front of the toilet at 3am…do you really think Dale is brimming with confidence when he makes a move? He knows he’s pulling the ham of questionable toxicity out of the fridge and trying to piece together a meal that won’t make him vomit.

  • I know the point of pitch counts is to keep pitchers’ arms from wearing out, but shouldn’t it be more about the ability to get out of trouble and being able to pitch well to hitters like Pujols(I know I should call him good, but I don’t want to). Remember how people freaked out when Ron Washington let Yu Darvish go 8 innings with 130 pitches(his team having a 6-run lead)? He later explained he tries to give pitchers a choice of how far they want to go, depending on how they feel and how the game’s going. Can you imagine what an old-time pitcher(i.e., Cy Young) would think of today’s babying of pitchers?

    I also read an article I believe was on CSN Chicago(I can’t find it right now) where Dale basically said the most important thing is having a happy, loose clubhouse. I felt insulted. People who put more importance on “feelings” and “atmosphere” than discipline and winning should not be leaders. As a fan, I’m also sick of my complaints and frustrations not being heard or just reassured with “We’re rebuilding!”, and “Trust in Theo!”. I don’t care if you’re rebuilding; that doesn’t mean you don’t try to get your team to win. So far, Do-Nothing Sveum and Co have done their best to ensure that the elitist baseball media is proven right that the Cubs suck like last year(FanGraphs is the only site I’ve seen that had a decent projection; I believe 89 or 85 losses). I want to shock the same media that trumpeted the supposed power of both LOLs AngeLOLes teams. But it seems the brass doesn’t care.

    Are you absolutely sure that there’s no one in Iowa or the rest of the farm that we could at least try out? And how are Brett Jackson and Josh Vitters doing for curiosity’s sake?

    • Chuck

      I think you are overreacting a bit. One of the most difficult things that people in management (sports, business, volunteer organizations, whatever) have to deal with is striking that balance between making “work” enjoyable and holding people accountable.

      If a manager is too much of a controlling dictator, people won’t want to work with him/her and will start to seek employment elsewhere. Employees also start to tune the manager out and don’t want to be there. That is a toxic workplace and will, eventually, fail. Just because professional ballplayers are paid a lot of money does not make them unfeeling automatons.

      Conversely, if a manager is too loosy-goosey and has no control then productivity will suffer because people will get lazy. It is a delicate balance.

      Personally, I have been in all sorts of environments and the most productive are the ones where you can have a beer with your boss after work, but they still demand your best while at work.

      • BLPCB

        I will not be grabbing a cold one with you.

      • Chuck

        OK. But being successful in business is about building relationships.

      • BLPCB

        Looks like someone hasn’t seen the trailers for “The Internship”. Hitting theaters this Friday.

      • Chuck

        And that trailer rubs me the wrong way every time.

      • Eddie Von White

        You seem a bit ornery today, Chuck.

      • Chuck

        I am ornery every day.

      • Eddie Von White

        I don’t blame you. If I was personally responsible for collecting non-human samples I’d be ornery every day too.

      • Chuck

        I don’t do it much any more. It was mostly stormwater, wastewater, hazardous waste, and other assorted environmental samples.

      • Eddie Von White

        Now you’re making me ornery.

      • Chuck

        That stuff was a cakewalk compared to getting prepped to enter a clean room. Now that is a pain in the butt.

      • Eddie Von White

        Even when I’m clean, I’m still dirty.

      • BLPCB

        I saw the movie last night, that scene is actually quite hilarious. Really good movie.

    • Seymour Butts

      The notion of pitch counts is relatively new (couple of decades) in the game. in the 70’s 300 innings was more a norm, as it had been for a century. This should lead one to suspect that it ain’t the human arm that is the issue, but what is being done to the body that makes arms break down so quickly.
      Must be global warming.

  • I know the point of pitch counts is to keep pitchers’ arms from wearing out, but shouldn’t it be more about the ability to get out of trouble and being able to pitch well to hitters like Pujols(I know I should call him good, but I don’t want to). Remember how people freaked out when Ron Washington let Yu Darvish go 8 innings with 130 pitches(his team having a 6-run lead)? He later explained he tries to give pitchers a choice of how far they want to go, depending on how they feel and how the game’s going. Can you imagine what an old-time pitcher(i.e., Cy Young) would think of today’s babying of pitchers?

    I also read an article I believe was on CSN Chicago(I can’t find it right now) where Dale basically said the most important thing is having a happy, loose clubhouse. I felt insulted. People who put more importance on “feelings” and “atmosphere” than discipline and winning should not be leaders. As a fan, I’m also sick of my complaints and frustrations not being heard or just reassured with “We’re rebuilding!”, and “Trust in Theo!”. I don’t care if you’re rebuilding; that doesn’t mean you don’t try to get your team to win. So far, Do-Nothing Sveum and Co have done their best to ensure that the elitist baseball media is proven right that the Cubs suck like last year(FanGraphs is the only site I’ve seen that had a decent projection; I believe 89 or 85 losses). I want to shock the same media that trumpeted the supposed power of both LOLs AngeLOLes teams. But it seems the brass doesn’t care.

    Are you absolutely sure that there’s no one in Iowa or the rest of the farm that we could at least try out? And how are Brett Jackson and Josh Vitters doing for curiosity’s sake?

    • Chuck

      I think you are overreacting a bit. One of the most difficult things that people in management (sports, business, volunteer organizations, whatever) have to deal with is striking that balance between making “work” enjoyable and holding people accountable.

      If a manager is too much of a controlling dictator, people won’t want to work with him/her and will start to seek employment elsewhere. Employees also start to tune the manager out and don’t want to be there. That is a toxic workplace and will, eventually, fail. Just because professional ballplayers are paid a lot of money does not make them unfeeling automatons.

      Conversely, if a manager is too loosy-goosey and has no control then productivity will suffer because people will get lazy. It is a delicate balance.

      Personally, I have been in all sorts of environments and the most productive are the ones where you can have a beer with your boss after work, but they still demand your best while at work.

      • AC0000000

        I will not be grabbing a cold one with you.

      • Chuck

        OK. But being successful in business is about building relationships.

      • AC0000000

        Looks like someone hasn’t seen the trailers for “The Internship”. Hitting theaters this Friday.

      • Chuck

        And that trailer rubs me the wrong way every time.

      • Eddie Von White

        You seem a bit ornery today, Chuck.

      • Chuck

        I am ornery every day.

      • Eddie Von White

        I don’t blame you. If I was personally responsible for collecting non-human samples I’d be ornery every day too.

      • Chuck

        I don’t do it much any more. It was mostly stormwater, wastewater, hazardous waste, and other assorted environmental samples.

      • Eddie Von White

        Now you’re making me ornery.

      • Chuck

        That stuff was a cakewalk compared to getting prepped to enter a clean room. Now that is a pain in the butt.

      • Eddie Von White

        Even when I’m clean, I’m still dirty.

      • AC0000000

        I saw the movie last night, that scene is actually quite hilarious. Really good movie.

    • Seymour Butts

      The notion of pitch counts is relatively new (couple of decades) in the game. in the 70’s 300 innings was more a norm, as it had been for a century. This should lead one to suspect that it ain’t the human arm that is the issue, but what is being done to the body that makes arms break down so quickly.
      Must be global warming.

  • Doug S.

    Hey Villanueva, quit muscling in on Marmol’s coffin nails.

  • Doug S.

    Hey Villanueva, quit muscling in on Marmol’s coffin nails.

  • Eddie Von White

    I don’t think Dale is brimming with anything.

    • Josh Cornwall

      He looks like he’s having nasty seasonal allergies.

      • Eddie Von White

        He looks like somebody rubbed his face in a bowl of pepper.

  • Eddie Von White

    I don’t think Dale is brimming with anything.

    • Josh Cornwall

      He looks like he’s having nasty seasonal allergies.

      • Eddie Von White

        He looks like somebody rubbed his face in a bowl of pepper.

  • Josh Cornwall

    Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

  • Josh Cornwall

    Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

  • I think he does the best he can with all the rancid meat products he’s got.

    • Chuck

      Agreed, he doing the best he can with what he has.

  • I think he does the best he can with all the rancid meat products he’s got.

    • Chuck

      Agreed, he doing the best he can with what he has.

  • BLPCB

    Hey Dale, ever consider going vegan or at least vegetarian?

  • AC0000000

    Hey Dale, ever consider going vegan or at least vegetarian?

  • BLPCB

    Nothing about Biogenises scandal? 20 guys, including A-Riod, Braun, Melky, Smokehouse, and Cruz could be facing 100 game suspensions. I wish they’d just give Braun the boot forever. He’s a freaking lair and he already got caught once. He got lucky that he was able to beat it. So what if your piss was mishandled? You still doped.

    • Chuck

      That is speaking from a position of ignorance. I, personally, have been responsible for collecting samples for testing (not human samples, but the point is the same because the results of the tests that the samples were for could cost the company millions) and each sample had to be collected, handled, and processed in a very specific way. Some samples had to have chemicals added and stored in a specific way or else the results would be invalid. Also, all samples had a chain-of-custody paperwork associated with them to ensure that they were not tampered with from when I took the sample and when the test was performed. I could not just “drop them off at a doorstep” without someone signing for it.

      They guy who took the samples screwed up. The remedy is to call the test invalid and retest. Immediately. We are talking about a person’s livelihood here. Do it right.

      • BLPCB

        So because his urine sample was kept in a basement instead of being shipped off right away, testosterone magically gets into it?

      • Chuck

        So, when you prepare your taxes next year you should ignore your W-2s and just guess? So if you are ever mistakenly arrested, the police could just ignore the procedures for collecting evidence from you and just wing it? It is easy to be flippant about these things when your ass is not on the line.

        Procedures are there for a reason. Follow them. It is not magic if someone tampers with the sample. The procedures are there to ensure that does not happen.

      • BLPCB

        Regardless of whether or not the sample was handled properly, what I am asking is if the collector’s version of events are correct, how would illicit substances get into it? He might have beaten it on a technicality, but I don’t get how anything could magically get into a clean sample, and the fact that he is linked to this further corroborates that he is a doper. Lot’s of smoke around him, and we’ve seen in the past with other athletes that where’s there’s smoke, there’s fire

      • Chuck

        The procedures are there to prevent TAMPERING not magic. You can’t stop magic without elaborate warding circles and rituals (which are just different procedures anyway and the guy, clearly, can’t follow simple procedures so magic defense is out…). How could a substance get into a clean sample? TAMPERING!!!!!! Read for comprehension. How could something happen that was different than what the sample collector said? He could be LYING TO SAVE HIS ASS!!!!

        The sample collector screwed up. Deal with it. Braun may very well be dirty, but you can’t base anything off of a botched test.

      • Seymour Butts

        Had the protocol been written slightly differently, allowing for a sample to sit in the collectors possession over the weekend instead of in FedEx’s possession over the weekend,there would have been no issue. Bruan’s sample tested positive because it was. He got off on a paperwork snafu, not a chemical one.
        And Chuck, though I appreciate your point of view, I don’t enjoy being in the position of defending CAPS’s logic. The less we argue with him, the easier life is.

      • BLPCB

        I was not trying to get at the merits of whether or not overturning his suspension was justified. What I am trying to get at is if the collector’s version of events are correct, is there any way a clean sample can become dirty?

      • Chuck

        Ninjas could have tampered with the sample while he slept.

      • Jerry in Wisconsin

        I bet it was those rogue IRS agents, I hear they are all Reds fans

      • Are you saying Detroit needs one more arm?

      • BLPCB

        Ask Homer, Lenny, Carl, Barney, Sam, and Larry. 6 guys who cause 91% of all traffic accidents in Springfield.

      • Seymour Butts

        You are correct, sleep soundly.

      • BLPCB

        “officials with the World Anti-Doping Agency have said nothing done to the sample affected its integrity.”
        http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/ct-spt-0605-baseball-steroids-20130605,0,4656530.story

      • Chuck

        Then MLB should have retested him immediately, and not even tested the original sample, with the justification that the sample was improperly handled. Then let the results speak for themselves.

        At this point there is no use in arguing with you. I just hope and pray that you are never in the position to be responsible for anything that requires strict adherence to a procedure. These things matter.

      • BLPCB

        But by that time, the steroids could have cleared out of his system

      • Chuck

        Irrelevant. You can’t un-ring the botched test bell. And no matter how many times you say “There’s no place like home.” while spinning counterclockwise, you can’t make an invalid test valid. Sterile poop is still poop.

      • Seymour Butts

        The test was no botched. The handling of the sample was in an irrelevant (to the results) way. You are making CAPS look sane. Please stop.

  • AC0000000

    Nothing about Biogenises scandal? 20 guys, including A-Riod, Braun, Melky, Smokehouse, and Cruz could be facing 100 game suspensions. I wish they’d just give Braun the boot forever. He’s a freaking lair and he already got caught once. He got lucky that he was able to beat it. So what if your piss was mishandled? You still doped.

    • Chuck

      That is speaking from a position of ignorance. I, personally, have been responsible for collecting samples for testing (not human samples, but the point is the same because the results of the tests that the samples were for could cost the company millions) and each sample had to be collected, handled, and processed in a very specific way. Some samples had to have chemicals added and stored in a specific way or else the results would be invalid. Also, all samples had a chain-of-custody paperwork associated with them to ensure that they were not tampered with from when I took the sample and when the test was performed. I could not just “drop them off at a doorstep” without someone signing for it.

      They guy who took the samples screwed up. The remedy is to call the test invalid and retest. Immediately. We are talking about a person’s livelihood here. Do it right.

      • AC0000000

        So because his urine sample was kept in a basement instead of being shipped off right away, testosterone magically gets into it?

      • Chuck

        So, when you prepare your taxes next year you should ignore your W-2s and just guess? So if you are ever mistakenly arrested, the police could just ignore the procedures for collecting evidence from you and just wing it? It is easy to be flippant about these things when your ass is not on the line.

        Procedures are there for a reason. Follow them. It is not magic if someone tampers with the sample. The procedures are there to ensure that does not happen.

      • AC0000000

        Regardless of whether or not the sample was handled properly, what I am asking is if the collector’s version of events are correct, how would illicit substances get into it? He might have beaten it on a technicality, but I don’t get how anything could magically get into a clean sample, and the fact that he is linked to this further corroborates that he is a doper. Lot’s of smoke around him, and we’ve seen in the past with other athletes that where’s there’s smoke, there’s fire

      • Chuck

        The procedures are there to prevent TAMPERING not magic. You can’t stop magic without elaborate warding circles and rituals (which are just different procedures anyway and the guy, clearly, can’t follow simple procedures so magic defense is out…). How could a substance get into a clean sample? TAMPERING!!!!!! Read for comprehension. How could something happen that was different than what the sample collector said? He could be LYING TO SAVE HIS ASS!!!!

        The sample collector screwed up. Deal with it. Braun may very well be dirty, but you can’t base anything off of a botched test.

      • Seymour Butts

        Had the protocol been written slightly differently, allowing for a sample to sit in the collectors possession over the weekend instead of in FedEx’s possession over the weekend,there would have been no issue. Bruan’s sample tested positive because it was. He got off on a paperwork snafu, not a chemical one.
        And Chuck, though I appreciate your point of view, I don’t enjoy being in the position of defending CAPS’s logic. The less we argue with him, the easier life is.

      • AC0000000

        I was not trying to get at the merits of whether or not overturning his suspension was justified. What I am trying to get at is if the collector’s version of events are correct, is there any way a clean sample can become dirty?

      • Chuck

        Ninjas could have tampered with the sample while he slept.

      • Jerry in Wisconsin

        I bet it was those rogue IRS agents, I hear they are all Reds fans

      • Are you saying Detroit needs one more arm?

      • AC0000000

        Ask Homer, Lenny, Carl, Barney, Sam, and Larry. 6 guys who cause 91% of all traffic accidents in Springfield.

      • Seymour Butts

        You are correct, sleep soundly.

      • AC0000000

        “officials with the World Anti-Doping Agency have said nothing done to the sample affected its integrity.”
        http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/ct-spt-0605-baseball-steroids-20130605,0,4656530.story

      • Chuck

        Then MLB should have retested him immediately, and not even tested the original sample, with the justification that the sample was improperly handled. Then let the results speak for themselves.

        At this point there is no use in arguing with you. I just hope and pray that you are never in the position to be responsible for anything that requires strict adherence to a procedure. These things matter.

      • AC0000000

        But by that time, the steroids could have cleared out of his system

      • Chuck

        Irrelevant. You can’t un-ring the botched test bell. And no matter how many times you say “There’s no place like home.” while spinning counterclockwise, you can’t make an invalid test valid. Sterile poop is still poop.

      • Seymour Butts

        The test was no botched. The handling of the sample was in an irrelevant (to the results) way. You are making CAPS look sane. Please stop.

  • Norm

    Whoa….did Jedi just have a criticism of Starlin?

    • Whip ’em out, fellas.

      • Seymour Butts

        Just showing enough to win

      • That’s a nice tip.

  • Norm

    Whoa….did Jedi just have a criticism of Starlin?

    • Whip ’em out, fellas.

      • Seymour Butts

        Just showing enough to win

      • That’s a nice tip.