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Would You Move To the Southside?

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Rumors from the Southside: Rumor has it that the Cubbies may be moving to the Southside for the 2013 season. Why, you ask? Wrigley Field is very old. Nearly 100 years old, to be exact. And sometimes, nearly 100 year old establishments need renovations. It seems to be that 2013 will be the year of renovations for Wrigley. However, Cub personnel is denying the rumors, while businesses on the Southside are being warned to prepare for a doubly-busy 2013. Would you go to the Cell to watch the Cubs? It would feel so wrong on so many levels…

Double-Dippin’: About a year and a half ago, Tony Gwynn had a cancerous tumor removed from the inside of his right cheek; on Tuesday, he had another tumor removed from the same spot. Last time he had a tumor removed, the doctors revealed it was wrapped around a nerve that controlled the right side of his face, so they left part of it. This time, the whole thing is being removed and he will need a nerve graft. Ew. Tony says that chewing tobacco caused his tumors, which brings up another issue: should lawmakers try to ban chew from the Majors?

Maddon: Joe Maddon is arguably one of the best managers in baseball. And he’s only 58 (those glasses age him). He agreed to a 3-year extension with Tampa Bay on Tuesday, and at the time of this post, the price was not posted yet. Maddon has gone 495-477 with the Rays and made it to the World Series once in six seasons.

Goodell: Roger Goodell will be paid $20 million per year by the end of his contract. Roddy White was not too pleased about this news: “How in the hell can u pay a man this much money that cant run tackle or catch.” He makes a good point; Goodell will make more money than the President of the United States, but he doesn’t have to run, tackle, or catch either.

  • Buddy

    I’m curious. Where did the southside rumor come from?

    • Katie

      If you click the highlighted words, you’ll go straight to the article 🙂

  • Buddy

    I’m curious. Where did the southside rumor come from?

    • Katie

      If you click the highlighted words, you’ll go straight to the article 🙂

  • Chetwest

    Hey Roddy, How the hell do you pay a man $20 million per year when all he does is run tackle or catch?

  • bonesinis

    How in the hell does Roddy White make $8 million and not catch passes thrown to him?

  • Guest

    How in the hell does Roddy White make $8 million and not catch passes thrown to him?

  • Doug S.

    Two MLB teams with 162 game schedules sharing the same digs doesn’t give much wiggle room for rain outs, etc. Plus Wrigleyville businesses lose 80 good days.

    If 20 mill is what the owners have agreed to pay Goodell, then he’s doing something right.

  • Doug S.

    Two MLB teams with 162 game schedules sharing the same digs doesn’t give much wiggle room for rain outs, etc. Plus Wrigleyville businesses lose 80 good days.

    If 20 mill is what the owners have agreed to pay Goodell, then he’s doing something right.

  • BLPCB

    No no no no no no no to playing at Sox Park for a year! It’s too late to get Wrigley renovated in time for the 100th anniversary and Pat Quinn won’t give Ricketts the money because he’s a White Sox fan. We need to get rid of this clown in 2014, and put a Cubs fan in.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if he eventually has to get part of his jaw removed. It’s really disgusting they chew tobacco. When I played baseball I would spit all the time bc I saw MLB players doing it.
    Hey White, your owner was one of the people behind giving the pay bump to Goodell. The league minimums in all leagues are higher than Barry’s salary. However, Barry has a lot more outside income and investments than these players do.

    • Kris

      Considering the awful state of Illinois’ finances right now, I really don’t that the governor’s team alliances have anything to do with it. Illinois has no money. (If they manage to find some, maybe they can pay the schools what they were promised. Or perhaps they can pay back the pensions they stole…er, “borrowed” from.) As much as I love the Cubbies and Wrigley, I’d be pretty ill if they got money from the state.

      • BLPCB

        He wants money from some fund that he pays into through a tax in ticket sales. All the other teams in Chicago get money from this fund, except him. I looked at this in my sports econ class. It would create a good amount of construction jobs, and a decent number of permanent jobs, and it would generate extra revenue to pay off the bonds. The only other option is Theo going back to Boston for a year and sending half a billion over here.

  • Smitty

    I dont even like when the cubs play the sox at the cell..i doubt I could go see a ‘home’ game there.. That would be like the bears moving to lambeau for a season

    • BLPCB

      Yes except we Packers fans are civil. White Sox fans are another species of animals.

  • AC0000000

    No no no no no no no to playing at Sox Park for a year! It’s too late to get Wrigley renovated in time for the 100th anniversary and Pat Quinn won’t give Ricketts the money because he’s a White Sox fan. We need to get rid of this clown in 2014, and put a Cubs fan in.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if he eventually has to get part of his jaw removed. It’s really disgusting they chew tobacco. When I played baseball I would spit all the time bc I saw MLB players doing it.
    Hey White, your owner was one of the people behind giving the pay bump to Goodell. The league minimums in all leagues are higher than Barry’s salary. However, Barry has a lot more outside income and investments than these players do.

    • Kris

      Considering the awful state of Illinois’ finances right now, I really don’t that the governor’s team alliances have anything to do with it. Illinois has no money. (If they manage to find some, maybe they can pay the schools what they were promised. Or perhaps they can pay back the pensions they stole…er, “borrowed” from.) As much as I love the Cubbies and Wrigley, I’d be pretty ill if they got money from the state.

      • AC0000000

        He wants money from some fund that he pays into through a tax in ticket sales. All the other teams in Chicago get money from this fund, except him. I looked at this in my sports econ class. It would create a good amount of construction jobs, and a decent number of permanent jobs, and it would generate extra revenue to pay off the bonds. The only other option is Theo going back to Boston for a year and sending half a billion over here.

  • Smitty

    I dont even like when the cubs play the sox at the cell..i doubt I could go see a ‘home’ game there.. That would be like the bears moving to lambeau for a season

  • BLPCB

    The only time we’ve come close to presidential salary matching baseball salary was 1929. Herbert Hoover was president and he made 75,000. Babe Ruth was the highest paid player in baseball, making 80 grand (1M in today’s money)

  • AC0000000

    The only time we’ve come close to presidential salary matching baseball salary was 1929. Herbert Hoover was president and he made 75,000. Babe Ruth was the highest paid player in baseball, making 80 grand (1M in today’s money)

  • BLPCB

    One more thing: Yesterday at work interacting with the guests, I met many Reds fans. I asked them their opinion on the Dust Bag, and they said they like him, they think he’s a great coach

  • Noah_I

    Meh, I’m fine playing at the Cell for one year if it results in a significantly improved Wrigley experience in the most time and cost effective manner.  As someone who can’t eat gluten, the Cell also has way better food options for me, so I might be a bit biased.  But I doubt it will happen.  They’ll probably do similar to what was done with Fenway about 10 years ago, and have renovations occur over several offseasons. 

  • Noah_I

    Meh, I’m fine playing at the Cell for one year if it results in a significantly improved Wrigley experience in the most time and cost effective manner.  As someone who can’t eat gluten, the Cell also has way better food options for me, so I might be a bit biased.  But I doubt it will happen.  They’ll probably do similar to what was done with Fenway about 10 years ago, and have renovations occur over several offseasons. 

  • Doc Raker

    The cell is a necessary evil at some point. Wrigley needs serious renovation, it is either the cell or Milwaukee unless there is some other outdoor venue that could hold a baseball game. What about Soldier Field? They could be like the 1959 Dodgers that played in the Coliseum with a 210 foot left field line.

    • Lizzie

      Disqus generic email templateI’d much prefer Milwaukee.

      • Lizzie

        Nice

      • Kris

        I enjoyed that, too, Lizzie. I’m going to start all my sentences that way today just to see what people do. 🙂

      • Lizzie

        Kris the sad thing is it probably adds a whole lot of substance to the types of things I usually post!!!!

      • Kris

        Disqus generic email templateThat’s not at all true, Lizzie. 🙂

    • Jedi

      Raker, let’s just have them play at the Coliseum for a year…the Chicago Cubs of Los Angeles has a nice ring to it.

    • Jeremiah Johnson

      I like Soldier Field over the Cell.  Less scheduling conflicts and forced interaction with Sox fans.

      • Noah_I

        Football stadiums are generally terrible for baseball is the problem.  I was in DC when the Nats first moved there, and RFK was a complete nightmare of a ballpark.  Add that to the terrible condition of the playing surface at Soldier Field, which I think would make the Bears not want to put a baseball diamond in, and I just doubt it would be allowed as an option. 

      • Jeremiah Johnson

        I know it’s not a great solution, but neither is causing a bunch of schedule conflicts by sharing a stadium with the Sox.  My preference would be to not move at all.  But if a move is required, I think Soldier Field makes more sense.  And I think the city–which owns the stadium and could use the extra revenue–might see it the same way.

  • Doc Raker

    The cell is a necessary evil at some point. Wrigley needs serious renovation, it is either the cell or Milwaukee unless there is some other outdoor venue that could hold a baseball game. What about Soldier Field? They could be like the 1959 Dodgers that played in the Coliseum with a 210 foot left field line.

    • Disqus generic email templateI’d much prefer Milwaukee.

      • Nice

      • Kris

        I enjoyed that, too, Lizzie. I’m going to start all my sentences that way today just to see what people do. 🙂

      • Kris the sad thing is it probably adds a whole lot of substance to the types of things I usually post!!!!

      • Kris

        Disqus generic email templateThat’s not at all true, Lizzie. 🙂

    • Jedi

      Raker, let’s just have them play at the Coliseum for a year…the Chicago Cubs of Los Angeles has a nice ring to it.

    • Jeremiah Johnson

      I like Soldier Field over the Cell.  Less scheduling conflicts and forced interaction with Sox fans.

      • Noah_I

        Football stadiums are generally terrible for baseball is the problem.  I was in DC when the Nats first moved there, and RFK was a complete nightmare of a ballpark.  Add that to the terrible condition of the playing surface at Soldier Field, which I think would make the Bears not want to put a baseball diamond in, and I just doubt it would be allowed as an option. 

      • Jeremiah Johnson

        I know it’s not a great solution, but neither is causing a bunch of schedule conflicts by sharing a stadium with the Sox.  My preference would be to not move at all.  But if a move is required, I think Soldier Field makes more sense.  And I think the city–which owns the stadium and could use the extra revenue–might see it the same way.

  • Doc Raker

    Should they pass a law outlawing chew in the bigs? Do we want the government regulating every aspect of our lives? I don’t. At some point people have to take responsibility for themselves, the government can not save us from ourselves, we just lose liberty when we abdicate our lives to the government.

    • Jeremiah Johnson

      Word.

      • Chuck

        Preach.

      • Katie

        Amen, brother.

      • Rich Fischer

         Big government won’t be happy until they can view the Constitution as a bad dream.

      • Doc Raker

        The constitution is just an obstacle to big government. Google Ruth Ginsburg’s lastest criticism of the greatest document in human history.

      • Mark Strickler

        As a former smoker of 25 years, I support all actions that will discourage tobacco use.  Here in Tennessee we tax the dickens out of it and consequently people quit and smoke less.

      • Mark Strickler

        As a former smoker of 25 years, I support all actions that will discourage tobacco use.  Here in Tennessee we tax the dickens out of it and consequently people quit and smoke less.

      • Katie

        Amen, brother.

      • Rich Fischer

         Big government won’t be happy until they can view the Constitution as a bad dream.

      • Doc Raker

        The constitution is just an obstacle to big government. Google Ruth Ginsburg’s lastest criticism of the greatest document in human history.

      • Mark Strickler

        As a former smoker of 25 years, I support all actions that will discourage tobacco use.  Here in Tennessee we tax the dickens out of it and consequently people quit and smoke less.

    • Seymour Butts

      What should be outlawed is Tony Gwynn. That superficially affable tub of goo was not well liked by his peers. Too much about “hits for Tony” not wins for the team.
      Outlawing anything stupid people put in their bodies is not the answer, it’s their body, their choice. …But it could all be legalized and taxed… the way tobacco and alcohol are.

      • Doc Raker

        How about we outlaw stupid people? Anyone dumb enough to put crack into their body we ship off to a beautiful island paradise. Stock the island with food on one side and crack on the other. Once every 3 months we go and pick up the people living on the food side and bury the dead on the crack side.

      • Seymour Butts

        I like that.
        Cheaper and more effective than our current system

      • Mark Strickler

         Ahh so we should legalize crack?

      • BLPCB

        Don’t got a problem with it. Legalize it and tax the hell out of it. And also legalize gambling, weed, loosen gun control laws, legalize fireworks where it isn’t legal (like Illinois), lower the drinking age to 18, and cut off the freeloaders and welfare seekers. So much untapped revenue, and so much money wasted on people. Not to mention the savings in law enforcement.

      • Mark Strickler

         Ahh so we should legalize crack?

    • Noah_I

      It wouldn’t be passing a law, it would be MLB putting it in the CBA.  It would be an employer issuing a rule that its employees must follow.  For example, if you work an office job there is no law that you can’t bring alcohol to your job and drink it.  But your workplace can ban it and fire you if you bring it in.  The rule that players can’t chew on the field is already in place in the minors.  The federal government wouldn’t be involved in this at all (although I could imagine DHHS would be in favor, they wouldn’t have any real say).

      But it would be a business decision between the owners and players.  With that said, the new CBA lasts 5 years, so the earliest you’ll see this come up for debate is prior to the 2017 season. 

      • Doc Raker

        I agree Noah, MLB has a right to regulate their own sport and can therefore outlaw chew or anything else for that matter. The question was ‘should lawmakers outlaw chew’ so I went in that direction but you are right a chew ban would most probably come from the CBA via MLB.

      • Kris

        All good points. I just find it kind of ironic that we’ve had a generation of kids growing up idolizing a bunch of juice-head players. The league turned their heads on that forever and a day, but they’ll get themselves up in arms about chew.
        I would like to see players be decent role models, and I’m not a fan of tobacco in any form. But the battles people pick sometimes confuse me.

      • Noah_I

        Yeah, I looked up at the question after I made that initial reply.  I would be utterly shocked if someone seriously took this up as a bill they were going to introduce at any level of any US governmental unit.  I know there was the steroid hearing in 2005 and the Roger Clemens hearing, but they were total publicity stunts and no attempts at legislation resulted from them.

        Even the rule that there is no alcohol served after the 7th inning isn’t a law, but instead a rule that MLB instituted after they had issues with fans throwing debris on the field in late innings and extra inning games. 

      • Doc Raker

        I live in California were they make ludicrous laws all the time. Don’t get me started.

    • Noah_I

      But I agree, no, lawmakers should not be involved on the use of smokeless tobacco at baseball parks.  But it’s just something lawmakers, ESPECIALLY at the federal level, are going to get seriously involved in.  I’d bet in the next 15 years there won’t be chewing tobacco at Major League Baseball games, but that will be a part of a CBA, not a law.

    • Kris

      Totally agree with you here, Doc. What would be next–hot dogs in the ball park being replaced with healthier tofu dogs? A one beer limit per game per customer? Players must use only biodegradable eye black and certified organic pine tar?

  • Doc Raker

    Should they pass a law outlawing chew in the bigs? Do we want the government regulating every aspect of our lives? I don’t. At some point people have to take responsibility for themselves, the government can not save us from ourselves, we just lose liberty when we abdicate our lives to the government.

    • Jeremiah Johnson

      Word.

    • Seymour Butts

      What should be outlawed is Tony Gwynn. That superficially affable tub of goo was not well liked by his peers. Too much about “hits for Tony” not wins for the team.
      Outlawing anything stupid people put in their bodies is not the answer, it’s their body, their choice. …But it could all be legalized and taxed… the way tobacco and alcohol are.

      • Doc Raker

        How about we outlaw stupid people? Anyone dumb enough to put crack into their body we ship off to a beautiful island paradise. Stock the island with food on one side and crack on the other. Once every 3 months we go and pick up the people living on the food side and bury the dead on the crack side.

      • Seymour Butts

        I like that.
        Cheaper and more effective than our current system

      • Mark Strickler

         Ahh so we should legalize crack?

      • AC0000000

        Don’t got a problem with it. Legalize it and tax the hell out of it. And also legalize gambling, weed, loosen gun control laws, legalize fireworks where it isn’t legal (like Illinois), lower the drinking age to 18, and cut off the freeloaders and welfare seekers. So much untapped revenue, and so much money wasted on people. Not to mention the savings in law enforcement.

    • Noah_I

      It wouldn’t be passing a law, it would be MLB putting it in the CBA.  It would be an employer issuing a rule that its employees must follow.  For example, if you work an office job there is no law that you can’t bring alcohol to your job and drink it.  But your workplace can ban it and fire you if you bring it in.  The rule that players can’t chew on the field is already in place in the minors.  The federal government wouldn’t be involved in this at all (although I could imagine DHHS would be in favor, they wouldn’t have any real say).

      But it would be a business decision between the owners and players.  With that said, the new CBA lasts 5 years, so the earliest you’ll see this come up for debate is prior to the 2017 season. 

      • Doc Raker

        I agree Noah, MLB has a right to regulate their own sport and can therefore outlaw chew or anything else for that matter. The question was ‘should lawmakers outlaw chew’ so I went in that direction but you are right a chew ban would most probably come from the CBA via MLB.

      • Noah_I

        Yeah, I looked up at the question after I made that initial reply.  I would be utterly shocked if someone seriously took this up as a bill they were going to introduce at any level of any US governmental unit.  I know there was the steroid hearing in 2005 and the Roger Clemens hearing, but they were total publicity stunts and no attempts at legislation resulted from them.

        Even the rule that there is no alcohol served after the 7th inning isn’t a law, but instead a rule that MLB instituted after they had issues with fans throwing debris on the field in late innings and extra inning games. 

      • Doc Raker

        I live in California were they make ludicrous laws all the time. Don’t get me started.

    • Noah_I

      But I agree, no, lawmakers should not be involved on the use of smokeless tobacco at baseball parks.  But it’s just not something lawmakers, ESPECIALLY at the federal level, are going to get seriously involved in.  I’d bet in the next 15 years there won’t be chewing tobacco at Major League Baseball games, but that will be a part of a CBA, not a law.

    • Kris

      Totally agree with you here, Doc. What would be next–hot dogs in the ball park being replaced with healthier tofu dogs? A one beer limit per game per customer? Players must use only biodegradable eye black and certified organic pine tar?

  • Chuck

    Rumors: It may be a great idea to have the Cubs play in The Cell for a season.  That way people can be reminded why the love Wriglet so much.  I have seen a few games in The Cell and my opinion is that it is a nice place to see a game if you are into soulless concrete stadiums.  The main problems with The Cell are a: there is no breeze in the stadium do on a hot sunny day you cook like a hot dog and b: the upper deck is so steep that you need a sherpa to get to the top rows.
    Dip: A disgusting habit that, as far as I can tell, does nothing for you.
    Maddon: I wish the Cubs could get him.
    Goodell: If you don’t like it, stop watching the NFL.  I have and I don’t miss it.

  • Chuck

    Rumors: It may be a great idea to have the Cubs play in The Cell for a season.  That way people can be reminded why the love Wriglet so much.  I have seen a few games in The Cell and my opinion is that it is a nice place to see a game if you are into soulless concrete stadiums.  The main problems with The Cell are a: there is no breeze in the stadium do on a hot sunny day you cook like a hot dog and b: the upper deck is so steep that you need a sherpa to get to the top rows.
    Dip: A disgusting habit that, as far as I can tell, does nothing for you.
    Maddon: I wish the Cubs could get him.
    Goodell: If you don’t like it, stop watching the NFL.  I have and I don’t miss it.

  • Doc Raker

    How about the Cubs play in one of the area’s minor league parks for a year? How much would that end up costing the Cubs in lost stadium revenue? Someone figure that stat out.

  • Doc Raker

    How about the Cubs play in one of the area’s minor league parks for a year? How much would that end up costing the Cubs in lost stadium revenue? Someone figure that stat out.

  • Eddie Von White

    There has to be some place the Cubs could play other than the Cell. I suggest they play at their Iowa farm club stadium.  Imagine what that would do for their economy and the it would be kind of fun to drive out to Iowa to watch the Bigs.

    When Tony Gwynn was winning all those batting titles and driving in so few runs, he wasn’t worried about chewing tobacco and cancer. But the Law of Consequences shows no prejudice.  I hope he gets well. And there should not be a law banning tobacco as Doc and Kris so eloquently stated. Police yourself.

    If Roger Goodell can get 20 mil for his services – more power to him. It’s called free market, Roddy. It works the same way you get paid millions to play a game.

  • Noah_I

    The only area Minor League Team is the Kane County Cougars, who are an hour plus drive from Chicago.  It has a capacity of 7,400 people.  I like the out of the box thinking, but the Cubs would be losing about 30,000 fans a game.  Even if they went to the nearest Triple A stadium in Indianapolis you’re still looking at a capacity of less than 15,000 a game including lawn seats.  The Iowa Cubs’ park holds 11,500.

    • Katie

      I’d be all for moving to Kane County. It’s only about 20 minutes from my Alma Mater. Iowa Cubs would be OK, too. Not too far from home. I don’t see any bad options you guys are throwing out.

      • Jedi

        No way an MLB team plays a season in a minor league park.  The options for the Cubs in such a scenario are 1) the Cell, 2) Soldier Field.  You can’t seriously expect any team to give up the 80% of the money from seats and concessions for a full season.  Or even 50%…people won’t be paying $78/seat face to sit in the bleachers at the Cell.  So forget about going from 42,000+ seats to anything substantially less – if anything, it’ll be the opposite, more seats at reduced prices to help mitigate the loss of the “Wrigley Field” experience for a year.  Not to mention the PR hit the Cubs would take from playing 81 games at a minor league park.

    • Kris

      If they chose to go to a small stadium, then they might as well look at the one the Schaumburg Flyers used to use. No one is using it at the moment.
      I don’t see something that small working, though. People will drive a ways to see the Cubs, but having less than 30,000 seats avaialble, even if nearby, is not a good option.

  • Noah_I

    The only area Minor League Team is the Kane County Cougars, who are an hour plus drive from Chicago.  It has a capacity of 7,400 people.  I like the out of the box thinking, but the Cubs would be losing about 30,000 fans a game.  Even if they went to the nearest Triple A stadium in Indianapolis you’re still looking at a capacity of less than 15,000 a game including lawn seats.  The Iowa Cubs’ park holds 11,500.

    • Katie

      I’d be all for moving to Kane County. It’s only about 20 minutes from my Alma Mater. Iowa Cubs would be OK, too. Not too far from home. I don’t see any bad options you guys are throwing out.

      • Jedi

        No way an MLB team plays a season in a minor league park.  The options for the Cubs in such a scenario are 1) the Cell, 2) Soldier Field.  You can’t seriously expect any team to give up the 80% of the money from seats and concessions for a full season.  Or even 50%…people won’t be paying $78/seat face to sit in the bleachers at the Cell.  So forget about going from 42,000+ seats to anything substantially less – if anything, it’ll be the opposite, more seats at reduced prices to help mitigate the loss of the “Wrigley Field” experience for a year.  Not to mention the PR hit the Cubs would take from playing 81 games at a minor league park.

  • Eddie Von White

    It would be very feasible to spend a few million bucks to temporarily add seating to a smaller stadium because whatever money was spent on the remodel would more than be made up in ticket sales at the gate. It would be a money maker all the way around.

    • Jeremiah Johnson

      I don’t really think it’s all that feasible.  When you consider all the money they’ll have to spend on the retrofit/refurbish Wrigley, the cost of upgrading whatever minor league facility they choose to call home, plus the across-the-board hit on ticket sales and concessions, and all the additional housing and travel costs that come with setting up shop in the sticks, the team would have to triple ticket prices to recoup everything they lose–and even that might not cover it.  While a season’s worth of Spring Training-type games would be a lot of fun, the only truly feasible option is a big league park or a football stadium.

      Still, I’d prefer they just stay at Wrigley.

      • Doc Raker

        I would think moving to a smaller stadium is cost prohibitive but what about this. Play in Schaumburg at the minor league stadium. Add some seats to get it to about 10,000. Triple ticket prices and add fringe benefits that could be done due to smaller crowds. Let the kids run the bases after every game, allow a handful of patrons to take batting practice and infield with the team for an additional fee. Make the post game clubhouse exit accessible to paying fans only- i.e.close off the surrounding area of the stadium and have the players mingle on their way out. Make it a more intimate one on one experience and charge for it. I think that would be so much better than the Cell as the Johnson brothers explained so well, ‘any increase in mingling with Sox fans is a detraction.’

      • Intimate one-on-one experience?  Are we talking about baseball, or dinner with Seymour?  

      • Drdecarlo

        Imagine the revenue that could be generated if they sold tickets to dine with Seymour. Or even if they charged a select few to join in on the clubhouse spread. How cool would that be to be in the clubhouse mess hall after a game, no reporters just the team and a few overcharged schmo’s to eat and discuss the game. Seymour would pay, imagine the names he could drop then.

      • Seymour Butts

        Such as Alec Berg?

      • Seymour Butts

        I also know a fellow who litigated a famous name in the publishing and fashion industry!

      • Seymour Butts

        I also know a fellow who litigated a famous name in the publishing and fashion industry!

      • Drdecarlo

        Imagine the revenue that could be generated if they sold tickets to dine with Seymour. Or even if they charged a select few to join in on the clubhouse spread. How cool would that be to be in the clubhouse mess hall after a game, no reporters just the team and a few overcharged schmo’s to eat and discuss the game. Seymour would pay, imagine the names he could drop then.

      • Eddie Von White

        I like Doc’s idea. I don’t know all the business behind it, but when Montreal hosted the Olympics they built a whole stadium just for a few weeks’ events, as do all the Olympic cities. You could add 10,000 seats to a stadium just by putting a grassy knoll outside the fence and let people sit on blankets and lawn chairs. Also, if I’m not mistaken, Dyersville, Iowa has had a steady stream of people since Field of Dreams in 1989. Who knows, one summer of big league baseball in Iowa might get them a real team.

      • Chuck

        As someone who lives in the Des Moines area and goes to many I-Cubs games, it is not going to happen.  The demographics and population base just won’t support a MLB team.  Once you get out of the Des Moines area, the population density just plummets to about zero.  Iowa is wall-to-wall farmland outside of a few metro areas and the entire state has fewer people than the Chicago suburbs.  The cost of living out here is much MUCH cheaper than the Chicago area and a consequence is that the per capita income is lower too.  We do a good job of supporting the I-Cubs, but a MLB club is a whole different animal.

  • Eddie Von White

    It would be very feasible to spend a few million bucks to temporarily add seating to a smaller stadium because whatever money was spent on the remodel would more than be made up in ticket sales at the gate. It would be a money maker all the way around.

    • Jeremiah Johnson

      I don’t really think it’s all that feasible.  When you consider all the money they’ll have to spend on the retrofit/refurbish Wrigley, the cost of upgrading whatever minor league facility they choose to call home, plus the across-the-board hit on ticket sales and concessions, and all the additional housing and travel costs that come with setting up shop in the sticks, the team would have to triple ticket prices to recoup everything they lose–and even that might not cover it.  While a season’s worth of Spring Training-type games would be a lot of fun, the only truly feasible option is a big league park or a football stadium.

      Still, I’d prefer they just stay at Wrigley.

      • Doc Raker

        I would think moving to a smaller stadium is cost prohibitive but what about this. Play in Schaumburg at the minor league stadium. Add some seats to get it to about 10,000. Triple ticket prices and add fringe benefits that could be done due to smaller crowds. Let the kids run the bases after every game, allow a handful of patrons to take batting practice and infield with the team for an additional fee. Make the post game clubhouse exit accessible to paying fans only- i.e.close off the surrounding area of the stadium and have the players mingle on their way out. Make it a more intimate one on one experience and charge for it. I think that would be so much better than the Cell as the Johnson brothers explained so well, ‘any increase in mingling with Sox fans is a detraction.’

      • Eddie Von White

        I like Doc’s idea. I don’t know all the business behind it, but when Montreal hosted the Olympics they built a whole stadium just for a few weeks’ events, as do all the Olympic cities. You could add 10,000 seats to a stadium just by putting a grassy knoll outside the fence and let people sit on blankets and lawn chairs. Also, if I’m not mistaken, Dyersville, Iowa has had a steady stream of people since Field of Dreams in 1989. Who knows, one summer of big league baseball in Iowa might get them a real team.

  • I just ordered a new stick in preparation for my adult league, where we adults can make our own choices regarding tobacco usage…I personally alternate between mouthfuls of Red Man and Dill Pickle Spitz.  If there was a chew ban imposed upon our team, our roster would be two guys deep.  

  • I just ordered a new stick in preparation for my adult league, where we adults can make our own choices regarding tobacco usage…I personally alternate between mouthfuls of Red Man and Dill Pickle Spitz.  If there was a chew ban imposed upon our team, our roster would be two guys deep.  

  • CubbieDude

    I would go to The Cell to watch the Cubs before I went there to watch the White Sox, although I much prefer the Milwaukee option.
    Outlaw tobacco; legalize weed.  And we don’t need a “drinking age”.
    In DC and Sacramento they make the laws.  In San Francisco they don’t enforce them.
    Once upon a time I was against smoking in restaurants, but I was not in favor of legal interference.  However, voluntary restraint never worked and banning it legally has worked.  Ergo, make tobacco illegal and enforce the ban.  Save people from themselves.
    That’s my platform.  Vote for me! 

    • BLPCB

      I just remembered now with your post on the Cell, I went to a Sox game in 05, and I got pelted with trash.

      • Seymour Butts

        You should not have been wearing the purple dinosaur outfit!

      • BLPCB

        A little late for that is it now. You can’t change the past. I wore my Cubs hat and shirt to the game (Sox-Twins), and I would do it again. Actually I wouldn’t. I’d hide the fact I’m a Cubs fan by wearing either a Packers, Bulls, or Ohio State hat and shirt. It was totally worth it though. 50 fans got tossed for what they did to me.

  • CubbieDude

    I would go to The Cell to watch the Cubs before I went there to watch the White Sox, although I much prefer the Milwaukee option.
    Outlaw tobacco; legalize weed.  And we don’t need a “drinking age”.
    In DC and Sacramento they make the laws.  In San Francisco they don’t enforce them.
    Once upon a time I was against smoking in restaurants, but I was not in favor of legal interference.  However, voluntary restraint never worked and banning it legally has worked.  Ergo, make tobacco illegal and enforce the ban.  Save people from themselves.
    That’s my platform.  Vote for me! 

    • AC0000000

      I just remembered now with your post on the Cell, I went to a Sox game in 05, and I got pelted with trash.

      • Seymour Butts

        You should not have been wearing the purple dinosaur outfit!

      • AC0000000

        A little late for that is it now. You can’t change the past. I wore my Cubs hat and shirt to the game (Sox-Twins), and I would do it again. Actually I wouldn’t. I’d hide the fact I’m a Cubs fan by wearing either a Packers, Bulls, or Ohio State hat and shirt. It was totally worth it though. 50 fans got tossed for what they did to me.