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Chet's Corner: In Regards to Our Enemy……

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I typically detest anything relating to White Sox baseball.  I can’t watch it, talk about it, or even look at that terrible logo.  Yet, however difficult it may be, today I will write about it.  Well, not exactly, I mean, I am not going to break down stats or anything or give projections for 2012 on the south side.   I guess I just noticed a few things that raised my brow.

First of all,  Kosuke found a new home to the tune of $500,000 (There is an option for year two at around 3.5 million.)  This is a better monetary representation of his ability in my book.  I say that being a Fukudome fan.  The only thing I hated about him was his windmill recoil out of the batters box on a low and away pitch.   I still feel that his fundamentals are some of the best we have seen in cubbie blue over the past few years…..yes, I know this is akin to being the tallest midget.

Second of all, I love the fact that Sox fans have collectively acted like 2012 won’t be happening.  I was recently at a bar talking Sox baseball with a few of my friends that “go that way”  and they were acting like they did not even know who their favorite team was, or who they would be rooting for in 2012.  A look back at history shows me that Sox fans, by large, do not stick by their team when the going gets tough.  They tend to choose baseball abstinance.  In this case, it probably doesn’t help that they are rated as one of the worst farm systems in baseball by many outlets and the cupboard is essentially bare for the future….and yes, this is coming from a Cubs fan.

Last but not least, let’s just suppose that the rumors are true regarding the Cubs playing at the Cell next year.  I kind of hope this happens for two reasons and two reasons only.  The first one, what if the Cubs sell out the cell regularly or at least crush the Sox attendance numbers?  Two, what if, with the scheduling of more night games and playing in a more modern park, the Cubs were to get to the World Series?  What type of ramifications might this have on the baseball landscape in Chicago?

  • Noah_I

    The White Sox are going to be a bad team for a pretty long period of time now, barring a massive payroll jump.

    • BLPCB

      Their payroll is already really bloated. The problem is Kenny Williams is an idiot who is trying to win now and in the future, and doing a craptastic job at both. Signing bad contracts, getting players too late in their career, trading for awful players, and giving up good prospects to get said awful players. I’m glad that the Peavy to the Cubs trade fell apart. He’s done nothing but spend time on the DL. And when they claimed Rois and his 50M in 2009, they did it to block the Tigers, and Toronto was more than happy to get rid of his contract.

    • AC0000000

      Their payroll is already really bloated. The problem is Kenny Williams is an idiot who is trying to win now and in the future, and doing a craptastic job at both. Signing bad contracts, getting players too late in their career, trading for awful players, and giving up good prospects to get said awful players. I’m glad that the Peavy to the Cubs trade fell apart. He’s done nothing but spend time on the DL. And when they claimed Rois and his 50M in 2009, they did it to block the Tigers, and Toronto was more than happy to get rid of his contract.

  • Jedi

    Eh, not sure I’m ready to talk smack – we’re not exactly yearning for the coming season either.  Or the one after that even…maybe by 2014 there’ll be enough of a difference between the two teams to warrant some mocking.

    I’m also pretty sure that a few extra night games in a modern park isn’t the difference between a World Series and the Cubs last 100+ years.

  • Jedi

    Eh, not sure I’m ready to talk smack – we’re not exactly yearning for the coming season either.  Or the one after that even…maybe by 2014 there’ll be enough of a difference between the two teams to warrant some mocking.

    I’m also pretty sure that a few extra night games in a modern park isn’t the difference between a World Series and the Cubs last 100+ years.

  • Smitty

    Only thing I hope for if the cubs have to play the southside is converting a few fans and gaining some new young fans..

  • Smitty

    Only thing I hope for if the cubs have to play the southside is converting a few fans and gaining some new young fans..

  • Mark Strickler

    It’s nice to see that Law ranks the Cubs 20th – wonder what the Cubs would have ranked had it not been for the Garza trade.  Perhaps the Cubs will rob somebody toward the trade deadline, I doubt that Garza will still be around when the Cubs are competitive again.

    • Pretty high.

      Lee is up there on his list this year.

  • Mark Strickler

    It’s nice to see that Law ranks the Cubs 20th – wonder what the Cubs would have ranked had it not been for the Garza trade.  Perhaps the Cubs will rob somebody toward the trade deadline, I doubt that Garza will still be around when the Cubs are competitive again.

  • BLPCB

    “A look back at history shows me that Sox fans, by large, do not stick by
    their team when the going gets tough.  They tend to choose
    baseball abstinance.”

    Not true at all. They’ve never stuck to their team. Their sole purpose is being Cubs haters who need a team to root for. When we play the Twins, Indians, Tigers, and Royals in interleague, they root for those teams over the Cubs. “Cubs suck” is the entire vocabulary of a White Sox fan. You can’t hold an intelligent baseball discussion with a White Sox fan.
    This is how such a conversation goes:
    What do you think of Pujols signing with the Angels?
    Sox fan: Cubs suck
    Do you think Braun’s suspension is going to get overturned?
    Sox fan: Cubs suck
    Do you think the Wilpons will be able to keep the Mets?
    Sox fan: Cubs suck
    So how about those Bears? Think Lovie’s a good coach?
    Sox fan: Cubs suck
    Think Barry will win the election this November?
    Sox fan: Cubs suck

    • Smitty

      I’ve honestly tried having baseball conversations with sox fans across the nation.I’ve lived all over the country and I relish the opportunity to talk with someone else from chicago, even if it is a sox fan. So I would see a sox hat or shirt and start up a light chat.you know all I ever got was idiots who either still think frank thomas is god or they bring up sammy and the cork bat. Wtf? Are you kidding me?i hate sox fans.i honestly don’t have a single friend who likes the sox.

      • BLPCB

        hahahahahahahahaha YES!!!!!! I LOVE IT!!!! Down here at Disney, I have met plenty of Chicago people, everyone of them I ask Cubs or Sox, they all say Cubs. 6 years ago, I was going into work one day, my manager who is Bulgarian, doesn’t understand English very well, saw my newspaper with a headline about the White Sox blowing a 6-0 lead to the Royals. He was like what does this mean? So I explained it to him, and told him 6-0 is a big lead. He’s like oh. (Pauses for a second). “But Kansas City!? They SUCK!! That must mean White Sox suck even more!!”
        And then one of the drivers who is Russian, but a big Sox fan was like, “White Sox don’t suck. They won the World Series!”
        Manager: “They blow 6-0 lead to Royals! Kansas City sucks!”
        At this point, they started arguing in their language until the head manager made everyone stop. It was hilarious.

  • BLPCB

    As for the Sox signing Fukudome, low risk move. Non-story IMO. I guess they don’t want him doing to them what he did after we sent him to the Tribe. That was a huge blow he dealt to their playoff hopes.

  • AC0000000

    “A look back at history shows me that Sox fans, by large, do not stick by
    their team when the going gets tough.  They tend to choose
    baseball abstinance.”

    Not true at all. They’ve never stuck to their team. Their sole purpose is being Cubs haters who need a team to root for. When we play the Twins, Indians, Tigers, and Royals in interleague, they root for those teams over the Cubs. “Cubs suck” is the entire vocabulary of a White Sox fan. You can’t hold an intelligent baseball discussion with a White Sox fan.
    This is how such a conversation goes:
    What do you think of Pujols signing with the Angels?
    Sox fan: Cubs suck
    Do you think Braun’s suspension is going to get overturned?
    Sox fan: Cubs suck
    Do you think the Wilpons will be able to keep the Mets?
    Sox fan: Cubs suck
    So how about those Bears? Think Lovie’s a good coach?
    Sox fan: Cubs suck
    Think Barry will win the election this November?
    Sox fan: Cubs suck

    • Smitty

      I’ve honestly tried having baseball conversations with sox fans across the nation.I’ve lived all over the country and I relish the opportunity to talk with someone else from chicago, even if it is a sox fan. So I would see a sox hat or shirt and start up a light chat.you know all I ever got was idiots who either still think frank thomas is god or they bring up sammy and the cork bat. Wtf? Are you kidding me?i hate sox fans.i honestly don’t have a single friend who likes the sox.

  • AC0000000

    As for the Sox signing Fukudome, low risk move. Non-story IMO. I guess they don’t want him doing to them what he did after we sent him to the Tribe. That was a huge blow he dealt to their playoff hopes.

  • Doug S.

    I don’t live in Chicago, but are the WS really the enemy? An AL team? Gimme the Cards or Reds to hate on any day.

    • Smitty

      Believe it or not, but the sox are just as much of a rival as the cards. But in a different way. It’s more if a rivalry at who really owns chicago baseball. I’ve actually had good baseball talk with cards fans. It’s weird though, because as a cubs fan, the white sox almost even count as a chicago sports team. I see that jersey, that logo, that awful fucking logo, and I say to myself “what are you doing in my city?”

      • BLPCB

        As Hawk Harrelson would say, YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAARD, YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!
        Finally someone here who hates the White Sox as much as me. When Reinsdorf threatened to move the team to Tampa, they should have let him, but he got his stadium because Mayor Daley is a stinking White Sox fan. The Sox are our biggest rivals after the Cardinals. However, unlike White Sox fans, we root for them over the Cardinals in interleague play because we need the Cardinals to lose (06 we were 20 games out of it, so I was pulling for the Cardinals that series). If there was a White Sox-Cardinals World Series, which is just about the only thing that could have made the 2005 and 2006 seasons worse than they were, I would root for the Cardinals. I’m not into the whole support your city BS. There are 5 pro teams in Chxiago and I only root for 2. I don’t care about hockey, and I hate the Bears and White Sox. I root for the Bulls and Cubs, and even then, I will root for the Lakers over the Bulls because of how Reinsdorf ran Michael, Scottie, and Phil out of town. I used to not care about the White Sox, but after seeing their forums and blogs and meetong some fans, I started hating them when I saw how they were just so anti-Cub

    • Smitty

      Believe it or not, but the sox are just as much of a rival as the cards. But in a different way. It’s more if a rivalry at who really owns chicago baseball. I’ve actually had good baseball talk with cards fans. It’s weird though, because as a cubs fan, the white sox almost even count as a chicago sports team. I see that jersey, that logo, that awful fucking logo, and I say to myself “what are you doing in my city?”

      • AC0000000

        As Hawk Harrelson would say, YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAARD, YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!
        Finally someone here who hates the White Sox as much as me. When Reinsdorf threatened to move the team to Tampa, they should have let him, but he got his stadium because Mayor Daley is a stinking White Sox fan. The Sox are our biggest rivals after the Cardinals. However, unlike White Sox fans, we root for them over the Cardinals in interleague play because we need the Cardinals to lose (06 we were 20 games out of it, so I was pulling for the Cardinals that series). If there was a White Sox-Cardinals World Series, which is just about the only thing that could have made the 2005 and 2006 seasons worse than they were, I would root for the Cardinals. I’m not into the whole support your city BS. There are 5 pro teams in Chxiago and I only root for 2. I don’t care about hockey, and I hate the Bears and White Sox. I root for the Bulls and Cubs, and even then, I will root for the Lakers over the Bulls because of how Reinsdorf ran Michael, Scottie, and Phil out of town. I used to not care about the White Sox, but after seeing their forums and blogs and meetong some fans, I started hating them when I saw how they were just so anti-Cub

  • cap’n obvious

    I don’t ‘hate’ the Sox.  I’m more ambivalent.  I’ve found that it pisses Sox fan off a LOT more if I just don’t care.  They WANT you to hate them.  I choose to not care.  They’re like the Dodgers in that respect.

    • BLPCB

      Do you still wish they go 0-162 every year?

  • cap’n obvious

    I don’t ‘hate’ the Sox.  I’m more ambivalent.  I’ve found that it pisses Sox fan off a LOT more if I just don’t care.  They WANT you to hate them.  I choose to not care.  They’re like the Dodgers in that respect.

    • AC0000000

      Do you still wish they go 0-162 every year?

  • When I lived in Chicago in the late 80’s I remember one bar on the corner across from Union Station. As I was walking to work they were changing their sign out front and it said Go Cubs.  On my way home a few hours later I passed again but now the full message took the smile off my face. It said Go Cubs. Stay Sox.

    I will not mis Fukudome’s inevitable slide every year after Memorial Day.

  • When I lived in Chicago in the late 80’s I remember one bar on the corner across from Union Station. As I was walking to work they were changing their sign out front and it said Go Cubs.  On my way home a few hours later I passed again but now the full message took the smile off my face. It said Go Cubs. Stay Sox.

    I will not mis Fukudome’s inevitable slide every year after Memorial Day.