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The New Manager’s Here, The New Manager’s Here: Multiple sources are reporting that Dale Sveum has/will be offered the Cubs job. Reportedly, Sveum would accept the job without considering offers from other clubs. It’s not a done deal yet, but apparently Maddux has ruled himself out and Hale, Mackanin, and Alomar Jr. weren’t as high on the list. (Francona removed himself from speculation for the position, though he’d not interviewed and wasn’t being listed as a finalist…thanks for ending the suspense, Terry).

Dale Sveum: Cliff’s Notes Version Remember when the Brewers were fighting for a playoff spot back in 2008 (one they eventually secured) and Ned Yost was making a horrible decision or getting ejected on a nightly basis? That’s when Dale Sveum stepped in as interim manager for the final two weeks of the season and the playoffs. He’s been a minor league manager (Pirates), 3rd base coach (Red Sox, Brewers), bench coach & hitting coach (Brewers). He was a journeyman utility player for 7 teams during 12 seasons, the best of which was his second year in the league. His final season as a player was 1999.

Can’t Skip This: Kerry Wood is talking about a multi-year deal with the Cubs. It’d be a very nice gesture if the new regime started their tenure by locking down Wood.

Occupy: The cadre of paid protesters, out of work hippies, college students, bums, and others are taking their show on the road today after being evicted from Zuccotti Park. They’ve scheduled “non-violent” roaming protests around NYC that will reportedly include a primer on the effectiveness of a Molotov cocktail. If you’re in New York – be safe; otherwise, enjoy the dumpster fire of activity on your evening news.

  • Buddy

    ESPN is reporting that Sveum will give the Red Sox a chance to counter offer.

  • Joe

    I love Kerry Wood. He’s been my favorite player for a long time, but a multi-year deal is the wrong way to go.

  • Chuck

    RE Sveum: I don’t know enough about him to comment. However, his answers to the questions a few days ago were fine with me.
    RE Wood: If by “multi-year deal” he means 2-year deal, fine. Anything more than 2 years is asking for trouble unless he is taking a discount to get the multiple years.
    RE Occupy: I really don’t want to go on a political rant here, buuuuuuuut… I have no problem with the Occupy people. They are exercising their rights to peaceably assemble and protest. They are also bringing to light a lot of built up anger over how things have gone in this country over the last few years. I tend to be a fairly conservative person but I am appalled over how Bush and Obama have handled the whole subprime meltdown, bailout, stimulus fiasco. I am just left with a bunch of questions like: Why haven’t there been a slew of federal investigations? Why hasn’t anybody gone to jail (you can’t tell me that nobody committed fraud and falsification of documents to show non-existent profitability)? Why have no Senators or Representatives been impeached and removed from office? Why weren’t management groups (CEO, CFO, VPs) fired as a part of accepting bailout money? If I failed as completely and utterly as a lot of these bozos (well if running a stable company instead of using it as a personal ATM was the job…) did I would have been fired on the spot with very good reason.
    People a mad because the US has morphed from a republic to a crony capitalism aristocracy. If you have the money, you are not subject to the same rules and laws as everyone else and that is wrong, Wrong, WRONG.
    Sorry about the rant. I will speak no more of it. Well… Until I get riled up again.

  • BLPCB

    Svuem: don’t know enough to comment
    Woody: he loves the Cubs so much, he should just go year to year
    Occupy: instead of spending all that time and energy protesting, why not channel it into helping whatever politician(s) you want to win next year?

  • Chuck

    Because most politicians suffer from SGDS (Same Guy Different Suit) syndrome. The Democrats and Republicans are the same save for a few superficial differences once you get beyond the rhetoric and demagoguery.

  • MJ

    Amen Chuck. You’re thoughts are exactly how I feel.

    Let them protest. Both parties suck.

  • Buddy

    Unless it’s for league minimum, a multi-year deal for Kerry Wood is a terrible idea.

  • flyslinger2

    How’s come so many manager prospects have taken their name off of the table in respect to the Cubs? Why is no one else asking that question in the media? What has made it unpalatable to work with an organization where you can make huge strides in orchestrating a turnaround?
    $
    I think Cubs should severally limit long term contracts until the whole organization is complete and a stem to stern assessment can be compiled to determine all of the factors in keeping a player.
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    Occupy my *#)#$. This is a bunch of misguided, ignorant, uninformed COLLEGE kids. These kids were sent to the “finest” schools our country has to offer and this is the best that they can behave. They racked up untold amounts of college loans and then fuss ’cause they can’t pay them back because they can’t get a job. Next week, when they are booted from the last of the parks and are sent packing, they will be back in their mama’s basement glued to a console mastering the next unlock option in Battlefield 3 all the while smelling like the 3 to 5 weeks of BO and other assorted nasty smells that they accumulated while rolling around on the ground with 2 to 3 hundred of their equally misguided friends. They need to exercise their free speech rights by acquiring, completing, and submitting job applications so that they can become a productive member of society. The schools really created intellectual giants, didn’t they?

  • Norm

    Which managers have taken their names out in respect to the Cubs?
    Maddux? We know why.
    Francona? He took his name out of ALL managerial spots.

  • Doc Raker

    Good luck Dale Sveum. My gut tells me I have seen this movie before, the cynic in me see’s this as Quade II, an inexperienced manager taking over a team poised to fail. I hope I am wrong, it does happen every now and then…………………1978 I last recall.
    * Crony Capitalism is certainly a problem. It is a term used for special interests in the private sector. The problem doesn’t end there, special interests in the public sector is a huge problem. The Tea Party is loathed by all special interest because they are willing to turn off the public money spigot. This is the only way to minimize crony capitalism and special interest, vote for people who understand the damage they have done. $15 Trillion in debt, 40% of every dollar spent is borrowed, Europe is collapsing under similar financial fundamentals and only a minority of politicians are taking it seriously. True fiscal conservatism is the answer.

  • Jedi

    Surprised that so many people think Wood is going to be offered a ridiculous contract. He’s probably looking for 2-3 years at $2mil or so a year. I don’t think that’s going to cripple us – plus if he has any more serious injuries I bet he’d just hang it up and retire. He went out of his way to be a Cub last year, can’t imagine that he’d stick it to them now.

  • Chuck

    If all Wood wants is 3 years at $2M per, give it to him. $2M is a pittance comppared to the overall team payroll and Wood is still a very productive player when healthy.
    2011: 51 IP, 3.35 ERA, 10.1 K/9, 1.294 WHIP, 2.71 K/BB
    Yes, I’d like some more of that.

  • MJ

    “The Tea Party is loathed by all special interest because they are willing to turn off the public money spigot.”

    Please.

  • chet

    Wood is good, not great just good, which is fine for $2 mill/year over 2 years and for a guy who really wants to play for the cubs.

    Occupy: The “cause-heads” needed something to do. The other causes were getting no airplay and this is the flavor of the month/quarter.

  • flyslinger2

    MJ-Why do you think the Republican establishment (the inside the beltway “know it alls”) are quaking in their boots? Look at how Karl Rove treated Christine O”Donnell who ran for Delaware State senate seat vacated by Joe Biden. She was a Tea Party candidate, very conservative in her ideology, and Rove trashed her. He single handidly swayed that election so a liberal nobody won that seat. He professes to be a Republican but he doesn’t matchup to anything I stand for.
    ^
    The Tea Party platform is an ideology created by many like minded individuals. Like the Occupy group, T.E.A.’ers are leaderless in the fact that not on person is at the helm steering the ship. The ship is built on a lot of intelligence and it runs on it’s own.

  • Jedi

    The Cubs are also reportedly chasing Bruce Chen and Grady Sizemore.

  • chet

    Please make this stop ….. hardly the forum for this.

  • chet

    thank you Jedi.

  • Seymour Butts

    Re: SGDS, totally agree. Check out this 8 year old episode of south park which explains a voters dilemma.

    http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s08e08-douche-and-turd

    If you don’t have time, the cliff notes version is one of the kids refuses to vote on a new school mascot. because hes only offered the choice between a douche and a turd. The Powers that be explain that always the choice, no matter what level the election.

    Solution? Arm the occupy movement and overthrow the government. It’s always worked before.

  • MJ

    ^ Exactly.

    I was approached this morning by a gentleman asking to sign his petition for re-election. The minute I heard “re-election” I said no.

  • Seymour Butts

    Christine O’Donnell….the witch?, or the “I am not a witch”? What ever party or ideology you have, a nutbag with that label on it is unlikely to help your cause.

  • Jedi

    Apparently Sizemore is being chased by several teams. And the Cubs might like him in RF (I’d prefer him at 1B); Chen, I don’t quite understand the infatuation. Even Leo Mazzone couldn’t make this guy good – not sure why anyone else bothers trying.

  • MJ

    What has Leo Mazzone done with the Orioles staff????

  • flyslinger2

    Per wiki this is Sveums major league record:

    Team Year Regular Season Post Season
    Games Won Lost Win % Finish Won Lost Win % Result
    Milwaukee Brewers 2008 12 7 5 .583 2nd in NL Central (Wild Card) 1 3 .250 Lost in NLDS
    MIL Total 12 7 5 .583 1 3 .250 –
    Total 12 7 5 .583 1 3 .250 –

    12 whole games constitutes a major league career? I thought he was looking for an experienced person based on his own comments.

  • Just so you know, this guy IS Mike Quade sans experience.

    “Prior to coaching in Milwaukee, Sveum managed the Double A team in the Pittsburgh Pirates organization from 2001–2003, compiling a 213-211 record. He was named Top Managerial Prospect in the Eastern League by Baseball America in 2003.[1]
    Sveum was the third base coach for the Boston Red Sox from 2004–05, working under manager (and former Brewers teammate) Terry Francona, and was part of the 2004 World Series championship team. In Boston, he was known for being aggressive with sending runners, though this often led to runners being thrown out at home plate. He left the Red Sox to rejoin the Brewers as the team’s bench coach. On October 30, 2007, Sveum left his role as the Brewers’ bench coach to become the team’s third base coach.[2] On September 15, 2008, he was named interim manager of the Milwaukee Brewers after manager Ned Yost was fired. As Ken Macha took over the Brewers for the 2009 season, Sveum stayed on as the team’s hitting coach.”

    From wikipedia ^

  • BLPCB

    Lol MJ, I was asked to sign for my state rep who is now running for state senator after just one term in the house, I was like absolutely not, he’s a moron and he is doing a horrible job as a state rep. And since they were on the park district ground I went inside and complained and they got booted.

  • Jedi

    MJ – Chen was with the Braves also, back when Leo was still their pitching coach. He’s had two cracks at him and never was able to do a thing.

  • Jedi

    fly – they wanted an experienced COACH, not necessarily an experienced manager.

    jswanson – I fear you’re right; but until he bats Baker 4th, puts DeWitt in LF, or repeatedly analogizes everything to horse racing…I’m going to cut him some slack.

  • MJ

    Chet, I’m saying what has Leo done since he left Atlanta??? I’d say the talent he there had made him better in most people’s eyes. I’d give more props to Duncan and Maddux, who always seem to get more out of less.

  • MJ

    ^ Err Jedi….no idea where Chet came in from…..

  • Jedi

    Greg Maddux, Smoltz, Glavine would all tell you that Mazzone was a big reason for their success (and let’s not pretend like those are the only guys who had success in Atlanta). I’m not saying Duncan or Mike Maddux isn’t as good – just saying that a legendary pitching coach couldn’t get crap out of Chen…that’s enough of a reason to pass.

  • BLPCB

    That’s kind of how I felt when we signed Marquis in 2007. He had pitched for Duncan and Mezzone, and was left off the Cardinals 2006 playoff roster despite all the injuries to their pitching staff.

  • lizzie

    @jedi and @jswanson I’ll be nervous if he starts in with the Starlie, Jeffie, Marmie stuff.

  • Chuck

    One question Mazzone needs to answer is this: Why have all the young Baltimore pitchers either lost significant velocity or gotten hurt over the last couple of years? Until that question gets answered, I pass on anybody from that coaching staff.
    RE Chen: Mediocre pitcher. If he wants more than minimal years and money you pass.
    RE Sizemore: He may be a good buy-low guy if his medicals check out. Otherwise pass.
    Why do we need another OF? Between Byrd, Soriano, Colvin and Jackson don’t we have enough? Maybe the new mangement is finally ready to call Soriano a platoon player.

  • Buddy

    If the Cubs are chasing Grady Sizemore, they should catch him easily. He can barely walk after all the knee injuries.