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Something to think about

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During this week’s news coverage of one of the significant news events mention was made of one family’s mantra. It went as follows: “To whom much is given much is expected.”

I thought about how this might apply to a person that made ten million dollars a year and that naturally led me to think about a certain Cubs right fielder. One who got cheered resoundingly a couple of times today when he performed well, it made me wonder whether or not there was some kind of disconnect between what this man perceives and what really goes on. If some nutjob in the right field bleachers yells the N word does that really mean that Wrigley is a racist environment? If some goofball shows up at an Obama speech wearing a sidearm and a sign that promotes violent overthrow does that mean that New Hampshire is a hearth of rebellion?

I compare and contrast Bradley’s antics with the actions of a young footballer for my alma mater Vanderbilt. Kadri made a brash decision that he later regretted; he asked permission to re-join the team and was later quoted in the Nashville paper as saying: “It feels good to know that I can make a mistake, be going through some things and they’re still willing to welcome me back.”

This is a young man who has learned the value of humility, he has learned that he is an imperfect human being that makes mistakes. I’m really rooting for him and hopefully he will one day wear Titan or Bears blue. Will Milton Bradley learn this? I think not – he’s been through seven teams in almost as many years, his history shows that he gets passed around more than a party girl at a fraternity PGA sorority swap. I’m talking about character here, a trait that Mr. Bradley must learn if he’s to salvage what appears to be a disastrous season and a career that is now in a dubious state.

  • cap’n obvious

    The unfortunate thing is now he is producing, and yet the big news is what an ass-bucket he is. It had to go this way, it has everywhere else he’s been.

  • MJ

    In other news, since this is getting REALLY OLD, is that Soriano had a MRI. Another one is to follow this week. Inflamation in the first one.

    So many stories to talk about yesterday, and the Bradley nonsense is of course first. Good Lord.

  • a trait that Mr. Bradley must learn if he’s to salvage what appears to be a disastrous season

    Bradley has had a disastrous season? I am curious to see your definition of disastrous.

    Soriano had a MRI

    So in other words, people continue to complain about the so-called headcase who can’t stay healthy, even though he hasn’t really been a headcase and he has stayed healthy, while meanwhile Alfonso Soriano, who makes significantly more money, and hasn’t been able to stay healthy and has been worse than Bradley both offensively and defensively, gets a free pass.

    Awesome.

  • MJ

    Yep. Let’s keep harping on the guy that had eight consecutive at bats with a hit.

    Oh wait, I’m sorry the oh so great Jake Fox, of course, won that game for them yesterday. Bradley had nothing to do with it. Because he has a bad attitude and should taken down a peg.

  • Doc Raker

    even though he hasn’t really been a headcase

    Uh? Really? Uh, what’s your definition of head case? The guy walks around with a scowl on his face, a chip on his shoulder and diahrea coming out of the mouth. That’s my definition of a head case.

    In other news, I am curious to know what the new owner wants to do with this bunch of misfits we call the Cubs.

  • MJ

    That’s my definition of a head case.

    Then Zambrano should be getting this type of attention on a daily basis too.

  • Uh? Really? Uh, what’s your definition of head case?

    The two main criticisms of Bradley coming into this season were 1) that he couldn’t stay healthy, and 2) that he couldn’t control his anger.

    Neither of those have been an issue.

    I don’t care about Bradley’s relationship with the press. Or the fans. I don’t care if he “walks around with a scowl” or has “a chip on his shoulder and diahrea [sic] coming out of the mouth.” The guy gets criticized for talking, and criticized for not talking. The guy is pretty honest, and may say stupid things at times, but that doesn’t make him a headcase.

    I just want him to perform.

  • Then Zambrano should be getting this type of attention on a daily basis too.

    Hmm… I haven’t really thought about him as a comparison to Bradley.

    Just like Soriano, Z gets paid much more than Bradley. Z has been more of a headcase, and less healthy, and almost equal production

    Z-ERA+: 113, Bradley-OPS+: 112
    Z-PRC: 52, Bradley-RC: 54

    Let me repeat. Z, more expensive, less healthy. Equal production.

    Soriano has somewhat received a pass, but Z has definitely received a pass from Cubs fans.

  • MJ

    Soriano has somewhat received a pass, but Z has definitely received a pass from Cubs fans.

    It’s Bradley’s fault.

  • rob

    Bradley’s anger has not been an issue?

    He has been suspended for bumping an umpire.
    He accused the umpires of conspiring against him.
    He got into a yelling match with the manager.
    The yelling match was in response to continually breaking bats and throwing things in the dugout after striking out.
    He was yelling at fans on the West Coast trip after having a good offensive day, though the team was fading fast on that same trip.
    He tells the press that the Cubs fans are racist and he hopes for nine inning games so that he doesn’t have to play extra innings.

    Did I miss any?

  • MJ

    I don’t see how his anger has caused them to loose games, his lack of production at the beginning of the year….maybe. But if that’s the case, Z and Soriano should be getting a beat down just as often as Bradley. And I believe Piniella started the dugout war.

  • rob

    I wasn’t saying it caused them to lose games. In a previous comment someone said his anger has not been an issue. And I don’t agree that Piniella started the war. I think being an idiot after striking out repeatedly started the war.

  • He has been suspended for bumping an umpire.

    You mean when he didn’t actually bump the umpire, but got suspended anyway?

    He accused the umpires of conspiring against him.

    I wouldn’t call that an anger issue. And it is definitely not the “anger” that was referred to when he was signed.

    He got into a yelling match with the manager.

    You mean the yelling match that Lou started? And that Lou had to apologize for? And that Bradley responded to in an incredibly classy way?

    The yelling match was in response to continually breaking bats and throwing things in the dugout after striking out.

    So? You mean he gets frustrated when he struggles? So does the rest of the team, yet people only care about Bradley. People (foolishly) cheer when Z breaks a bat.

    He was yelling at fans on the West Coast trip after having a good offensive day, though the team was fading fast on that same trip.

    That was him talking trash to fans talking trash. Again, not sure why this is an issue that people care about.

    He tells the press that the Cubs fans are racist and he hopes for nine inning games so that he doesn’t have to play extra innings.

    How is being honest the same as being angry?

    I actually have very little problem with each of those things that you point out. And again, those are not the things that people referred to. He hasn’t gone after coaches. He hasn’t gone after the press. He hasn’t gone after umpires.

  • Seymour Butts

    There is a lot of truth to what Dave is saying (did I say that out loud?)
    If you expected Milty to be a problem child, then he has been. If you are a member of the media, you likely fanned that flame. But if you, like me, just kept your fingers crossed that it would not be as bad as we were forewarned. What I have seen on the field is a guy who is trying his hardest to contribute, and was obvioulsy frustrated by his lack of production. K Gregg should have followed that lead.
    If he’s a clubhouse cancer, we probably won’t know until he’s shipped off in the winter, but the media will not give us that story straight, it’s not in their best interest.

  • “a chip on his shoulder and diahrea [sic] coming out of the mouth.”

    Did you actually type in [sic] or do you have software that just does that for you when appropriate? Just wondering.

  • rob

    wow dave you’re right. how could i have been so foolish. great use of the grey boxes.

    how many other players on the team could have a list like that made about them? i never said zambrano was not a problem…so dont argue everyone else against me.

    bradley’s actions started the argument with lou. lou apologized for what he called him, not for confronting him. the point is lou doesn’t confront him if he acts more grown up. breaking bats and throwing stuff around the dugout isn’t how i want my guys acting when they strike out. i don’t cheer when zambrano breaks the bat over his knee. i think it is moronic, immature, and also emblematic of an anger issue.

    it is not honest to imply that the fans are racist. to say that there are individuals who are racist is one thing. to imply that it is racist to boo and say that he sucks is not honest. it is dishonest and simple minded.

    players who get into it with fans the way Bradley did are idiots. especially if they are getting into it at the same time your team is fading into oblivion.

    all i am saying is that there is no other player, even z, who would have a list like this about them on the team. i don’t hate the guy. i think he does care. but some of this (like saying I want to play nine innings and get out of there) is hard to take. Bradley is not the biggest issue with this team. it has a lot of issues. Bradley is just one. but to say that he has not shown anger is not true. yeah, he hasn’t threatened an announcer or beat up a coach…pretty high standards huh?

    so go at it. I could write these all in separate sentences to make the pulling apart sentence by sentence for grey boxing easier.

    by the way, I do have a problem with how he has acted. and I also think he bumped the ump…unintentional…but still.

  • MJ

    but some of this (like saying I want to play nine innings and get out of there) is hard to take.

    I’ve been one teams where I was glad our league games only went seven. They were awful, and I had a tough time wanting to play. I see the same thing from this team.

  • Doc Raker

    I’ve been one teams where I was glad our league games only went seven. They were awful, and I had a tough time wanting to play. I see the same thing from this team.

    And how much were you being paid? [sic]

  • rob

    You might feel that way…but you’re not getting paid. You are also not trying to have good relationship with a fan base. And even if you felt that way you wouldn’t stand infront of the fans and tell them that- and blame them for it.

  • MJ

    You are also not trying to have good relationship with a fan base.

    Pandering to the fanbase is part of their contract???

  • rob

    Right, pandering. The opposite of accusing the fans of being racist for booing him is called pandering. Just like it is pandering to try to maintain a good relationship with your boss at work. Just like it is pandering to work for an organization that is trying to sell something to consumers and not say things that cause the consumers to not want to buy your product. Pandering…Like pandering by going on the Cubs Caravan or the Cubs Convention. Pandering…like all of the other players who have not called the fans racist. 24 panderers and one honest guy. Ridiculous.

  • MJ

    And even if you felt that way you wouldn’t stand infront of the fans and tell them that- and blame them for it.

    How do you know? In the heat of the moment, people do and say some dumb things. Bradley just does it a hell of lot more than anyone else. Go ahead, think you’re better than that, but until your in his shoes you don’t know.

    I applaud his effort every night, which is a hell of a lot more than I can say for most of the team. He brings is 100% of the time, and if he pops off, then so be it. This team has the heart of a two toed sloth.

    I also find it interesting that this city fell in love with characters like Dennis Rodman, Bryan Cox, Albert Belle, Bob Probert, to name a few, but for whatever reason Bradley is just the most god awful thing to walk the planet. Fickle bunch.

  • Kris

    Not that I think Bradley is completely in the right here, but he is not the first player to make claims of racism by the fans. He’s not even the first in the last few years. At what point do we start thinking that maybe there is an issue with some fans?

    Just like it is pandering to try to maintain a good relationship with your boss at work. Just like it is pandering to work for an organization that is trying to sell something to consumers and not say things that cause the consumers to not want to buy your product.

    But people slam Len and Bob for not doing just that. They should be 100% brutally honest about the team. I’ve heard the same about Lee–that he isn’t critical/honest enough when he is interviewed. What is the line between who should speak freely and those who should shut up and be “shills” for the organization?

    24 panderers and one honest guy. Ridiculous.

    What’s ridiculous is to imply that Bradley is the only one who has issues with teammates, management, or the fans. Five minutes on this board will demonstrate otherwise.

  • Kris

    My Sox fan friend just walked by and said, “Bradley’s the new goat.” Geesh–even she gets it. 🙂

    This gem was followed by, “Buerhle had that perfect game. Ever since it has been perfect poop.”

  • rob

    i never implied that bradley is the only one with issues. my point was that it is not pandering to not call fans racist for booing. the problem is not that bradley spoke critically. the problem is that he implied that the fans were racist. there is a major difference. undoubtedly he heard racist things. people are dopes. but there are 40,000 people at wrigley every game. do you think he heard racist things from more than 4 people every game. would the other 39,000 align with those comments or reject the comments and those who said them.

    it is frustrating to have this discussion. the thing i said that started this was in response to a statement saying that bradley’s anger was not an issue this year. would that honestly be disagreed with? I only said he has demonstrated anger issues. i didn’t say that was a reason the cubs were losing. i didnt write an article about his anger and making excuses for the season. i responded to a comment that said bradley’s anger has not come up this year. i didnt make any statements about other players or teammates or who has issues with who. it amazes me that saying that bradley should not imply that the fans are racist for booing turns into whether or not i think i am better than that and how i would handle myself in a similar situation.

    here is the thing…if i did it in that situation i would say i was wrong for doing it. i would say that my anger got the best of me. i would say that i shouldn’t accuse an entire fan base of being racist for being critical of me. the fact that i might do it, or other cubs might have said the same thing, changes nothing about what i said.

    it would probably be good to see what has been said and argue it in the context of what was said and why it was said. if you are going to grey box what i say, don’t argue about what everyone else is saying and how nobody is criticizing zambrano for his issues. if someone said here that zambrano’s anger had not been an issue this year i would have written the same thing.

  • MJ

    I don’t think we’ll ever get what he says in context, the media takes bits and pieces of what he says, and then filters it to us. That goes with any professional athlete. They’re trying to make a story.

    Quite honestly, I thought the racist remark was a non-story. Jacque Jones said the rougly same thing, and no one ever really got that worked up about it, except Dusty Baker (gulp). Jacque sucked, Bradley at least is out there trying. All I’ve been saying is the Bradley has been the scape goat since he put on the jersey and it sucks. There are at least four other players I’d lay blame on this season before him.

  • rob

    I agree with much of what you said.

  • Lizzie

    I think Bradley is an a**, but I also agree that he was a scapegoat for a lot that wasn’t his fault. I also think it was in his power to change that. All he had to do was shut up. Sure, the press folks would have tried to make something out of nothing for a while as they always do, but if he didn’t feed them they’d have eventually starved. They aren’t stupid, though. They knew from his history if they pushed him, he’d give them exactly what they wanted. And, he didn’t disappoint them!