Comments on: The Tale of Theriot http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/ A Chicago Cubs Blog and Fan Site Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:43:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Becky http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12652 Becky Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:17:44 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12652 I don't know if it's a record or not, I accidentally stumbled onto this site and couldn't resist adding my two cents in. Theriot has the 2nd most hits for the Cubs this season! You can try, but you just can't quiet The Riot. (or his loyal fans) I don’t know if it’s a record or not, I accidentally stumbled onto this site and couldn’t resist adding my two cents in. Theriot has the 2nd most hits for the Cubs this season! You can try, but you just can’t quiet The Riot. (or his loyal fans)

]]> By: MGAD http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12632 MGAD Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:22:08 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12632 Yes!!!! dave finally admitted that Theriot has not been a "below average hitter" this year! And we have now hit 50 comments to this post. Isn't that like a record or something? Yes!!!! dave finally admitted that Theriot has not been a “below average hitter” this year!

And we have now hit 50 comments to this post. Isn’t that like a record or something?

]]> By: Becky http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12631 Becky Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:42:39 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12631 AMEN Kris! You said it all! Theriot definitely gets the most out of his talent through hard work and dedication to the team. Comparing him to my kid isn't a personal attack. If I'd wanted to "personally attack" him I would have. Look, we've watched most of these games almost daily for 162 games. It sounds crazy but these players feel kind of like family after all that time. I don't like to hear any of them criticized. We have a great team and it's time to stop nit picking and get behind them 100%. My husband, kids and I are Cub fans, and yes, Ryan Theriot fans. We love them all-period. Go Cubs Go! This is the year! AMEN Kris! You said it all! Theriot definitely gets the most out of his talent through hard work and dedication to the team. Comparing him to my kid isn’t a personal attack. If I’d wanted to “personally attack” him I would have. Look, we’ve watched most of these games almost daily for 162 games. It sounds crazy but these players feel kind of like family after all that time. I don’t like to hear any of them criticized. We have a great team and it’s time to stop nit picking and get behind them 100%. My husband, kids and I are Cub fans, and yes, Ryan Theriot fans. We love them all-period. Go Cubs Go! This is the year!

]]> By: dave l http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12630 dave l Mon, 29 Sep 2008 03:56:50 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12630 <blockquote>Maybe you could agree that Theriot is an average hitter who has been extremly lucky this year.</blockquote>Nah... I don't think I would agree with that. I would say that he is a below average player who, with the help of being lucky, had an average offensive season. And the "personal attack against Becky" was clearly a joke in response to her attack.

Maybe you could agree that Theriot is an average hitter who has been extremly lucky this year.

Nah… I don’t think I would agree with that. I would say that he is a below average player who, with the help of being lucky, had an average offensive season.

And the “personal attack against Becky” was clearly a joke in response to her attack.

]]> By: MGAD http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12629 MGAD Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:36:47 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12629 Yes, dave, you have referred to all of his numbers, but what you refer to the most are his power numbers, therefore beating the dead horse. No one here has argued about his power numbers...there is nothing to argue there. The only thing that I have disagreed with is your statement that Theriot is a "below average hitter". Theriot ended 2008 with a .306 BA, a .386 OBP, and the 2nd most hits of all Cubs players, really those are not the numbers of a below average hitter. In post #19, you say that Theriot's BABIP is much higher this year than the MLB average. You say it screams luck. Maybe you could agree that Theriot is an average hitter who has been extremly lucky this year. How's that??? Oh, and since you are so sensitive to what you think are personal attacks, what's with the personal attack against Becky (#44)? Common man! :) Yes, dave, you have referred to all of his numbers, but what you refer to the most are his power numbers, therefore beating the dead horse.

No one here has argued about his power numbers…there is nothing to argue there. The only thing that I have disagreed with is your statement that Theriot is a “below average hitter”.

Theriot ended 2008 with a .306 BA, a .386 OBP, and the 2nd most hits of all Cubs players, really those are not the numbers of a below average hitter.

In post #19, you say that Theriot’s BABIP is much higher this year than the MLB average. You say it screams luck. Maybe you could agree that Theriot is an average hitter who has been extremly lucky this year. How’s that???

Oh, and since you are so sensitive to what you think are personal attacks, what’s with the personal attack against Becky (#44)? Common man! :)

]]> By: Rich Beckman http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12628 Rich Beckman Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:35:38 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12628 I am a big Theriot fan. I would say the thing that makes me so high on Theriot is because he gets more out of his ability than most players. If Soriano (for example) got as much out of his talent as Theriot gets out of his, Soriano would have all kinds of record breaking performances to his credit. As I type this it is the top of the ninth. Soriano flied out. But Theriot got a hit. Lee hit into a double play. The numbers may be average, but it SEEMS like he is always getting a hit. I am a big Theriot fan.

I would say the thing that makes me so high on Theriot is because he gets more out of his ability than most players. If Soriano (for example) got as much out of his talent as Theriot gets out of his, Soriano would have all kinds of record breaking performances to his credit.

As I type this it is the top of the ninth. Soriano flied out. But Theriot got a hit. Lee hit into a double play.

The numbers may be average, but it SEEMS like he is always getting a hit.

]]> By: dave l http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12627 dave l Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:39:35 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12627 <blockquote>in your arguments on Theriot being below average, you continue to refer to his power numbers.</blockquote>Actually, I have referred to ALL his numbers.

in your arguments on Theriot being below average, you continue to refer to his power numbers.

Actually, I have referred to ALL his numbers.

]]> By: dave l http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12626 dave l Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:38:44 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12626 <blockquote>You remind me of my daughter-you’d argue with a brick wall just to argue.</blockquote>Funny, because you are arguing with me. Does that mean that you are a brick wall?<blockquote>They have said as well that all of the Cubs players have played well together as a team and that all the players have made a contribution.</blockquote>What is your point? Where did I say that Theriot did not make a contribution? I have actually said the opposite.<blockquote> FACT: He’s a part of the team.</blockquote>FACT: That says nothing about his ability, other than that he is good enough to make a major league team. <blockquote>FACT: He has a good camaraderie with his teammates and they like him.</blockquote>FACT: That says nothing about his ability.<blockquote>FACT: Lou has praised him multiple times this year for his efforts.</blockquote>FACT: Lou also has praised Bob Howry multiple times this year for his efforts. But maybe you think that Theriot and Howry are equal. <blockquote>If you’re going to support a team, support the team.</blockquote>You can support a team without thinking that every player is a good player.

You remind me of my daughter-you’d argue with a brick wall just to argue.

Funny, because you are arguing with me. Does that mean that you are a brick wall?

They have said as well that all of the Cubs players have played well together as a team and that all the players have made a contribution.

What is your point? Where did I say that Theriot did not make a contribution? I have actually said the opposite.

FACT: He’s a part of the team.

FACT: That says nothing about his ability, other than that he is good enough to make a major league team.

FACT: He has a good camaraderie with his teammates and they like him.

FACT: That says nothing about his ability.

FACT: Lou has praised him multiple times this year for his efforts.

FACT: Lou also has praised Bob Howry multiple times this year for his efforts. But maybe you think that Theriot and Howry are equal.

If you’re going to support a team, support the team.

You can support a team without thinking that every player is a good player.

]]> By: Kris http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12625 Kris Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:34:54 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12625 I tend not to take any of these stats too much to heart unless they are absolutely phenomenal or painfully awful. We can analyze numbers until we're blue in the face, but sports are quite frequently about the intangibles. Sometimes the All Star just doesn't work out--whether it be injury (Nomar, for example) or a lack of chemistry with his teammates. Sometimes you take a chance and you get more than you expected--DeRosa, Soto, or even Hoffpaiur this week! Why go chasing waterfalls?! We're winning, and I don't know why you'd mess with a team that's winning. I tend not to take any of these stats too much to heart unless they are absolutely phenomenal or painfully awful. We can analyze numbers until we’re blue in the face, but sports are quite frequently about the intangibles. Sometimes the All Star just doesn’t work out–whether it be injury (Nomar, for example) or a lack of chemistry with his teammates. Sometimes you take a chance and you get more than you expected–DeRosa, Soto, or even Hoffpaiur this week!

Why go chasing waterfalls?! We’re winning, and I don’t know why you’d mess with a team that’s winning.

]]> By: Becky http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12624 Becky Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:33:32 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/09/26/the-tale-of-theriot/#comment-12624 You know, I have to agree with MGAD. You remind me of my daughter-you'd argue with a brick wall just to argue. Have you listened to any of the player or coach interviews? They have said as well that all of the Cubs players have played well together as a team and that all the players have made a contribution. Is Theriot a power hitter? No, and I never said he was. All I've been trying to say is that he doesn't deserve to be graded on a scale tailored to the power hitters. FACT: He's a part of the team. FACT: He has a good camaraderie with his teammates and they like him. FACT: Lou has praised him multiple times this year for his efforts. If you're going to support a team, support the team. If you want to build yourself a "perfect team" then go do it instead of picking apart the players of the team you proclaim to support. You know, I have to agree with MGAD. You remind me of my daughter-you’d argue with a brick wall just to argue. Have you listened to any of the player or coach interviews? They have said as well that all of the Cubs players have played well together as a team and that all the players have made a contribution. Is Theriot a power hitter? No, and I never said he was. All I’ve been trying to say is that he doesn’t deserve to be graded on a scale tailored to the power hitters. FACT: He’s a part of the team. FACT: He has a good camaraderie with his teammates and they like him. FACT: Lou has praised him multiple times this year for his efforts. If you’re going to support a team, support the team. If you want to build yourself a “perfect team” then go do it instead of picking apart the players of the team you proclaim to support.

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