Comments on: Losses Feel Bad…Let’s Not Get Anymore!!! http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/ A Chicago Cubs Blog and Fan Site Sat, 20 Mar 2010 03:35:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: ddave http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10687 ddave Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:45:06 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10687 <i>Despite all the love being thrown at Dempster I don’t think his peripheral stats (from what I remember) suggest he’s going to keep performing anywhere close to what he’s done over his first four starts</i> Not so sure about that: Dempster: 3.00 ERA, 1.04 WHIP, 6.0 k/9, 4.1 BB/9, 5.3 h/9. K/9 are a little low, but not awful. If he can keep his walks/hits at 1 an inning, he will will continue to pitch well. Of course... that is a HUGE if. Despite all the love being thrown at Dempster I don’t think his peripheral stats (from what I remember) suggest he’s going to keep performing anywhere close to what he’s done over his first four starts

Not so sure about that:

Dempster: 3.00 ERA, 1.04 WHIP, 6.0 k/9, 4.1 BB/9, 5.3 h/9.

K/9 are a little low, but not awful. If he can keep his walks/hits at 1 an inning, he will will continue to pitch well. Of course… that is a HUGE if.

]]> By: Ginto http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10683 Ginto Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:56:16 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10683 Can't look up the stats right now but our SP has underperformed thus far. Despite all the love being thrown at Dempster I don't think his peripheral stats (from what I remember) suggest he's going to keep performing anywhere close to what he's done over his first four starts. Yes, at this point, Marquis has pitched like our third best starter. Given that it's April that's understandable for him. I really think our season will depend greatly on how/if Lilly and Hill's fortunes turn. To comment on your post, Joe: I'd like to see Pie get more AB's. He's showing signs of improvement and getting better ABs. I don't see the need for Fontenot on this club. He has terrible ABs. And I think we need to get Daryl Ward some more playing time. Against a slop righthander I'd like to see Ward in LF and Pie in CF with DeRo at 2B. Fukudome keeps impressing me everytime I see him. He's a ballplayer through and through. Can’t look up the stats right now but our SP has underperformed thus far. Despite all the love being thrown at Dempster I don’t think his peripheral stats (from what I remember) suggest he’s going to keep performing anywhere close to what he’s done over his first four starts. Yes, at this point, Marquis has pitched like our third best starter. Given that it’s April that’s understandable for him. I really think our season will depend greatly on how/if Lilly and Hill’s fortunes turn.

To comment on your post, Joe:
I’d like to see Pie get more AB’s. He’s showing signs of improvement and getting better ABs. I don’t see the need for Fontenot on this club. He has terrible ABs. And I think we need to get Daryl Ward some more playing time. Against a slop righthander I’d like to see Ward in LF and Pie in CF with DeRo at 2B.

Fukudome keeps impressing me everytime I see him. He’s a ballplayer through and through.

]]> By: Jacki R. http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10677 Jacki R. Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:35:10 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10677 Yay, I can post again. I didn't post during the winning streak and didn't want to jinx it. Yes, I am that superstitous. Anyway, I will let you guys battle out the Theriot v/s. Cedeno arguement. In repsonse to Joe's question, the thought that Jason Marquis is the third best guy in the rotation rigt now, makes me very, very nervous. Yay, I can post again. I didn’t post during the winning streak and didn’t want to jinx it. Yes, I am that superstitous. Anyway, I will let you guys battle out the Theriot v/s. Cedeno arguement. In repsonse to Joe’s question, the thought that Jason Marquis is the third best guy in the rotation rigt now, makes me very, very nervous.

]]> By: ken http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10672 ken Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:59:03 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10672 "We" can still win 155 games this year. It will be ok. “We” can still win 155 games this year. It will be ok.

]]> By: rob http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10670 rob Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:49:20 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10670 I think Theriot's hands were too "scrappy" to turn the double play yesterday. :mrgreen: I think Theriot’s hands were too “scrappy” to turn the double play yesterday. :mrgreen:

]]> By: ddave http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10668 ddave Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:31:55 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10668 One more thing... Cedeno has flat out crushed AAA pitching over the last two years. That has continually been shown to be a good predictor of major league success. But again... this thread wasn't about Cedeno. This comment thread started when someone claimed that Theriot was the cubs only offense last year, even though he was, unarguably, one of the worst offensive players on the team. One more thing… Cedeno has flat out crushed AAA pitching over the last two years. That has continually been shown to be a good predictor of major league success.

But again… this thread wasn’t about Cedeno. This comment thread started when someone claimed that Theriot was the cubs only offense last year, even though he was, unarguably, one of the worst offensive players on the team.

]]> By: ddave http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10667 ddave Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:30:18 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10667 <i>I know we are all in love with Cedeno right now because he is hot. </i> Nah... I have been a Cedeno fan long before the last couple of weeks. And I have long thought that Cedeno has a MUCH higher upside than Theriot. <i>Can he find other ways to help the team without getting a hit? Historically he has not. </i> He has been able to this year, as he has shown great patience and a new ability to walk and "work counts." Don't get me wrong - Theriot has been a better player than Cedeno up to this point. But Cedeno is finally starting to look like he "gets" it. And Cedeno is significantly younger. I know we are all in love with Cedeno right now because he is hot.

Nah… I have been a Cedeno fan long before the last couple of weeks. And I have long thought that Cedeno has a MUCH higher upside than Theriot.

Can he find other ways to help the team without getting a hit? Historically he has not.

He has been able to this year, as he has shown great patience and a new ability to walk and “work counts.”

Don’t get me wrong – Theriot has been a better player than Cedeno up to this point. But Cedeno is finally starting to look like he “gets” it. And Cedeno is significantly younger.

]]> By: ddave http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10666 ddave Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:25:31 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10666 Well... I am one of the biggest Murton fans around, but Murton's inability to get any lift on the ball this year has been a major problem. He has not had one extra-base hit this year, in the minors and majors combined. Well… I am one of the biggest Murton fans around, but Murton’s inability to get any lift on the ball this year has been a major problem.

He has not had one extra-base hit this year, in the minors and majors combined.

]]> By: jose http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10665 jose Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:25:01 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10665 I do think pitches taken is a valuable stat, specifically if you bat leadoff. Regarding Theriot and Cedeno: Theriot strikes out less -about 50% less. He walks more -about three times more. He steals more bases -about 3 times more. I know we are all in love with Cedeno right now because he is hot. But I am not sold yet. Let's see what happens to his game when his bat goes cold or he makes an error that gets into his head. Can he find other ways to help the team without getting a hit? Historically he has not. This team is better with Theriot in the lineup and on the field. I do think pitches taken is a valuable stat, specifically if you bat leadoff. Regarding Theriot and Cedeno: Theriot strikes out less -about 50% less. He walks more -about three times more. He steals more bases -about 3 times more. I know we are all in love with Cedeno right now because he is hot. But I am not sold yet. Let’s see what happens to his game when his bat goes cold or he makes an error that gets into his head. Can he find other ways to help the team without getting a hit? Historically he has not. This team is better with Theriot in the lineup and on the field.

]]> By: archie http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10662 archie Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:54:06 +0000 http://viewfromthebleachers.com/blog/2008/04/24/losses-feel-badlets-not-get-anymore/#comment-10662 I sit here and wonder what Murton did to Pinella. Man, he must have really pissed that guy off sometime. I can smell him rotting on the bench from here. I sit here and wonder what Murton did to Pinella. Man, he must have really pissed that guy off sometime.

I can smell him rotting on the bench from here.

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