I wanted to take a look as we head into spring training games what the best option should be for the batting order. Lou has already expressed to us that Alfonso Soriano will be the leadoff man. Many, when they heard that statement groaned a collective groan and yearned for better times when Lou would understand that Soriano should not being in the leadoff position. Perhaps we should look at the numbers and see if those wishes are, in fact, justified. Is Soriano a bad choice for the leadoff spot? Is Ryan Theriot better suited for the role. After all, remember how good he did when he was given the chance last year? Let’s take a look at what we received from the two of them last year. Keep in mind that the following numbers are the result of 577 plate appearances by Soriano and 161 plate appearances by Theriot. They’re not even sample sizes, but anything more than 150 plate appearances, in my opinion, is a good enough sample size to get a good reading on what can be done by a player. Here are the results of each player when placed in the top spot in the order last year.
| Player Name |
AVG |
OBP | SLG | W/L |
|
A. Soriano |
.308 | .345 | .579 | 69-56 |
|
R. Theriot |
.300 | .342 | .420 | 15-19 |
As you can see, both players performed particularly well, but had room for improvement. Don’t be fooled by above average batting average and think that they did a great job in that spot. Consider instead the slightly above league average OBP put up by each of them. .334 was the NL average last year for that stat and both were just slightly above that. It’s a stat that’s vital to the leadoff role and our guys had room to improve on it. What got me intrigued was when we delve a little deeper into the numbers. For example, take a look at the team record when each player is in the lineup in the leadoff spot. For Soriano, the team put an above .500 record on the board with him in the leadoff spot, while playing below .500 when Theriot was in that spot. “But when Theriot was in the leadoff spot, Soriano was injured, so his bat was missing in the offense.” That isn’t exactly true. Of the 34 games Theriot was in the leadoff spot, nine of them (26%) of them included Soriano in the lineup.
Maybe we should dive into the alternatives to examine if we really should make a move for change. Let’s take a look at not only how each player performed in non-leadoff positions last year, but also in their career. Let’s start with Soriano in the third spot last year, which consisted of 31 plate appearances. In that limited time, Soriano put up the following numbers:
.179 / .258 / .286 with a team record of 3-4. 31 plate appearances doesn’t seem like a good sample size, so perhaps we should look at his career numbers in various positions to see how they stack up.
| Order Position |
AVG |
OBP | SLG | Plate App. |
|
Leadoff Spot |
.295 | .341 | .551 | 2804 |
|
Third Spot |
.260 | .310 | .452 | 687 |
|
Fifth Spot |
.268 | .312 | .513 | 626 |
That’s a pretty severe drop off when Soriano is moved out of that top spot. The third spot even puts him in the league average OPS numbers. Yuck. That’s certainly not worth the money spent to bring him in. He has always maintained that the leadoff spot is where he feels most comfortable and a good part of the reason is because as the leadoff man, he sees a good deal more fastballs. He may not admit it, but he’s a slugger trapped in a speedy guy body. Sluggers like fastballs and the leadoff spot sees fastballs.
Theriot’s career numbers look like this in the first and second spots.
| Order Position |
AVG |
OBP | SLG | Plate App. |
|
Leadoff Spot |
.289 | .329 | .409 | 170 |
|
Second Spot |
.284 | .353 | .386 | 445 |
There is not nearly as significant a drop off in Theriot’s numbers overall, and one could even argue that his numbers are roughly the same or even better. He gets on base at a more consistent clip and loses just a bit off his slugging.
Let’s assume that Brian Roberts stays in Baltimore and we go into the season with Soriano and Theriot vying for the top spot. After looking at the numbers, are you sure you don’t want Soriano in that top spot? I’m beginning to rethink my position on it.
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um, neither Soriano nor Theriot are well-suited for a lead-off role.
a solid on-base threat such as Fukudome would be a solid choice.
Lou’s not going to hit Fukudome first though.
I never said he would. I stated that he should.
Murton or DeRosa are other in-house options who could lead off very well.
DeRosa’s career as leadoff: .272 / .308 / .371
I would bat D.Lee 1st, followed by Theriot, Fukodome, Ramirez, Soriano, Soto, Pie, DeRosa. But I’m guessing I’ll never see that lineup to know if it works or not.
As much as I think Soriano should bat lower in the order, you are right. The stats do speak for themselves. I can’t help wondering though, if Lou started the season with him in the five spot and stuck with it for the season, would he would find a way to start performing there? Maybe he has just been coddled too long and not been forced to learn how to hit breaking balls. I just figure that his speed will decline soon and we will end up leading off with not only a slow but also a bad OBP hitter. Oh well, I imagine Lou doesn’t want to experiment much this year and I understand why.
I don’t remember anyone saying that it should be Theriot…
I don’t think that DeRosa’s 151 at-bats in the leadoff spot tell you anything. Not enough data. The guy has a career OBP of .341…a lot better than Sori’s .328.
Should be DeRosa.
^ I was going to say the same thing. 151 is not enough of a sampling. Things can swing one way or another too much in that span of time. He could have been in the midst of a hot streak, or cold streak. Too skewed for me.
For me, a number two hitter that can do their job properly is more of a concern.
“They’re not even sample sizes, but anything more than 150 plate appearances, in my opinion, is a good enough sample size to get a good reading on what can be done by a player.”
I think this 150 plate appearance number is SIGNIFICANTLY low. I’d say you need more like 1000 plate appearances to get a good reading on someone.
GREAT article on this at baseball prospectus…
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7184
Mike fontenot needs more playing time and would fit well into a table setter in the lineup. What good are leadoff homers with no one on base?
I think mike fontenot would be a good fit into a table seeting role for the lineup. Alfonso soriano’s leadoff homers are not valuable with no one on base.