Comments on: Who Needs Brian Roberts Anyway? We’ve Already Got Him!

By: Jacki Rossi

Jacki Rossi — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:27:20 +0000

The analysis is good. However, what stands out in my mind is actual v/s projected. Well that and the Patterson name of course.

By: Jerious Norwood

Jerious Norwood — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:22:14 +0000

One pretty major problem. Patterson is going to be an outfielder when he hits the majors. And counting on a rookie to put you over the top in a playoff race is a ‘bootable’ offense (as is disparaging the boot). I like the analysis apart from that.

By: Matt Jacobs

Matt Jacobs — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:10:03 +0000

That last comment summed up my thoughts Boomer. I think Patterson hasn’t fallen too far from the Corey tree. I’m not sure their sold on him being much of a contributor without it being a headache.

As long as we can send Cedeno, and only one of the pitchers, I’d say do it. Not both.

By: Boomer

Boomer — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:57:19 +0000

PECOTA also had Felix Pie at 288/342/480 for ‘07.

Roberts has dropped about 25 OBP pts from his minor league averages to his ML averages and wasn’t over 345 until he had over 1400 at bats. Expect Patterson to be no better than the 330’s for the entire year if he’s playing.

Patterson is terrible at 2B, hence the move to the OF.

Patterson was 77% successful in SB’s last year at Iowa. I would have to assume that to get worse (even though Pie got significantly better somehow).

Finally, Patterson is in the dog house with the club it seems for showing up late or whatever it was at the end of the year that got him sent right back down to the minors.

By: Brian

Brian — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:49:04 +0000

I would give Marshall and Cedeno for Roberts, but that is it. If it would take more, I would not do it. I don’t think that losing Marshall would really hurt that much, because we have pretty much the same type of pitcher, only a little better, in Rich Hill. I can live with having only one starter who is a lefty and throws big breaking stuff. In regard to Cedeno, I like him and think he still has a lot of potential (ducks to avoid objects being thrown), but I would part with him and Marshall to get Roberts…..but nothing more.

By: Pete

Pete — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:29:31 +0000

I gotta agree that I like the idea of moving Patterson up instead of Roberts. Roberts came on relatively late in his career and relatively recently. He is also linked to steroids.

I’d rather give a shot to an A prospect than trade two pitchers and Cedeno for a 30 year old. The only problem with Patterson is that instead of being linked to steroids, he’s linked to his brother.

What is the plan with DeRosa for this season? Utility guy batting near the bottom of the line up?

And how firmly is Theriot penciled in at SS at this point?

Just wondering…

By: Harry

Harry — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 03:10:02 +0000

Look at some more projections – for 2008 – here http://cubsfx.blogspot.com/2008/01/roberts-deal-still-simmering.html

It paints a slightly different picture.

By: Jose

Jose — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:41:39 +0000

I like the analysis. You make a solid case. I also would like Roberts on the Cubs but would not want to trade away our future for him. I vote for giving Patterson a shot. However, there are two points to consider: (1) Roberts is a proved talent, Patterson is not. He is full of potential much like his brother (and we know how that worked out). (2) I think that Roberts can be had for a lot less, if we are patient. The Orioles will be a terrible team this season. At some point they will have to trade him.