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It was just a little bit of a crazy weekend, with two major news stories (Stanton and Ohtani) coming across the wire since last week. Let’s get you caught up on where things stand as we head into this week’s winter meetings and then let’s get to our usual discussion and nonsensical banter about nothing.

The Cubs signed a couple guys over the weekend. The first being Tyler Chatwood. While Chatwood hasn’t been all that good, he throws hard and gets ground balls. Couple that with the fact that he was pitching in Coors field and he’s only 28, and you’ve got a decent upscale lottery ticket project for new pitching coach, Jim Hickey to work on. Chatwood’s deal is a three year deal worth $38 million guaranteed, so low risk.

Brandon Morrow also signed a deal to pitch out of the pen. Two year deal with an option for a third. You’d have to guess that he would immediately slot in as the closer, given the money spent on him, which means the Cubs have gone from Hector Rondon to Aroldis Chapman to Wade Davis to Morrow. A new name in each of the last four years.

There are still rumors that the Cubs are interested in starting pitchers named Alex Cobb, Chris Archer and Alex Colome. Basically, anyone who has pitched for the Rays.

Lastly, this guy is trying to make a comeback. (Read the Story – Subscription Required) – Let’s be real. The only reason this clown is trying to come back is to make himself eligible for hall of fame consideration by the veterans committee. I’m not sure if, by coming back, he’d then be put back on the regular ballot or not, nor do I care. I’m a fan of steroid users getting into the Hall of Fame. It doesn’t bother me in the least, but when you go before congress and wag your finger at us all, you insult my intelligence, and are dead to me.

  • Buddy

    The combined salary for Morrow and Chatwood this year will likely be less than one year of Jake Arrieta or Yu Darvish. Solid moves by the front office so far.

    • Allan Birmantas

      I totally agree. Still need at least one more quality starter and a couple arms to fill out the BP. I am not convinced that they signed Morrrow to be their closer.

      • Buddy

        Maybe Chris Archer is in play? I’d hate to see Happ or Schwarber traded, but if one of them brings Archer to Chicago, it’s probably a good move.

      • Kyle

        If they sign Cobb, i don’t think they need Archer.

      • Buddy

        Yes, it would be one or the other. Wondering if they may cut a deal vs. a free agent signing.

      • Buddy

        Sounds like the Cubs are kicking the tires on a Duffy trade as well.

  • Karen Hirsh

    Still need to trade some players we already have that don’t produce.

    • Allan Birmantas

      Who would you like to trade? We can discuss once you have established this.

      • Karen Hirsh

        Schwarber and Lackey for sure.

      • John Lackey is a free agent.

      • Seymour Butts

        So you are saying a sign and trade…

      • JTBarrett16

        MLB doesn’t allow it like the NBA does

      • Jerry in Wisconsin

        Looks like you caught your target again.

      • Seymour Butts

        Fish in a barrel.

  • Allan Birmantas

    Exactly who is “This” guy?

    • Kyle

      I think it’s Jose Canseco

    • Doc Raker

      Raffy Palmero. I don’t think he will get Ryne Sandberg’s vote, Cindy’s maybe but not Ryne’s.

  • Doc Raker

    You know what amazes me, $38M being low risk.

    • Buddy

      Cost of doing business I’m afraid. SP’s are expensive, even league average SP’s.

    • Brad Lyerla

      Agreed. Two years. Was there a market for Chatwood? Pulled the trigger pretty fast on him. Was that meant to relieve the pressure when negotiating with Cobb or Archer, etc?

    • Jerry in Wisconsin

      Hey Doc, you now have a chance to give Len a piece of your mind. The Cubs are raffling off a chance to talk to Len during the Winter Meetings. All proceeds go to charity. If you win please tape the conversation we would all love to hear it.

      • JTBarrett16
      • Doc Raker

        Len: Congratulations on winning a conversation with me.
        Raker: I won? I thought this was the booby prize.
        Len: What is on your mind?
        Raker: Did you ever see Zepplin live?
        Len: No, I did see Journey a few times. Love Steve Perry in tight pants.
        Raker: Figures. Who’s your favorite broadcaster from when you were a kid?
        Len: Tom Skilling, the way he does the weather intrigues me.
        Raker: Baseball intrigues me. The nuances of the game, the cat and mouse game between the pitcher and hitter intrigues me. I love breaking those nuances down during the game.
        Len: I like the walk up music during the game.
        Raker: Any chance your music career will take you away from the Cubs broadcast booth?
        Len: I don’t think so, I don’t get much love on itunes.
        Raker: Pity.

      • JTBarrett16

        You should come up with a plan for Len to help him make it big so he can score all the hits he wants

      • Doc Raker

        And go on a summer world tour leaving a vacancy in the Cubs booth

      • JTBarrett16

        Go on tour with Eddie Vedder

      • Jerry in Wisconsin

        I believe Eddie is too smart to let that happen.

      • cap’n realist

        2nd place? 2 chances to speak to Len…

      • Jerry in Wisconsin

        That sounds more like the Booby prize, an award only CAPS would love.

  • JTBarrett16

    Red Sox willing to move JBJ:
    https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-buzz-trade-talk-deals-and-rumors/c-260657722

    I like Sherm’s proposal of Schwarber for JBJ. Add in Heyward for Price to swap bad contracts

    • Bartz

      I think this might happen. With Stanton going to NY, I bet they’re getting ready to roll the dice on Schwarber becoming the next Big Papi.

    • Sherm

      Never said that – I’d want Betts not Bradley. Or Benintendi…but Betts fits best.

      • JTBarrett16

        I thought it was JBJ. My fault. Stupid B’s

      • Sherm

        I don’t dislike Bradley – I just don’t think he’s worth it compared to Schwarber’s potential upside. I stick by my original thought: Heyward AND Schwarber for Betts, and the Cubs eat some of Heyward’s salary. To me, it still solves problems for both teams – they both get better.

      • JTBarrett16

        I don’t disagree but I don’t see the Red Sox taking Heyward without unloading Price

      • Sherm

        I would take Price in a minute, too, but not sure how that would work because then Boston would want a lot more in game ready talent than I’d be willing to give up, I think.

        Price would benefit from a) reuniting with Hickey, b) a change of scenery that is nowhere near Dennis Eckersley, and c) pitching in the NL

      • Doc Raker

        Why is Eck bad for Price?

      • Sherm
      • JTBarrett16

        They had a brouhaha during the 2017 season.

      • JTBarrett16

        I just don’t see Heyward going to Boston without Price coming to Chicago. Bad contract for bad contract.

  • King In The Nawth

    Poor Starlin

    • Sherm

      There are no poor major league ball players

      • JTBarrett16

        He makes MORE money going to the Marlins. No state income tax in Florida.

      • Doc Raker

        More accurate to say Starlin will keep more of his money in Florida. He makes the same amount of money but the government takes less of what he earns. Remember, governments don’t earn money, they can only take money from their citizens.

      • JTBarrett16

        Yes, you are right. Poorly worded on my part. Losing the state income tax deduction is going to harm these athletes though. Even those who play in tax free states, they still have to pay jock taxes for the road games

      • Doc Raker

        Losing the state income tax deduction is double taxation and is not constitutional, IMO. Republicans can not do anything correctly.

      • JTBarrett16

        By that argument, you should be able to deduct BOTH state income tax and sales tax instead of having to choose (something done because of states like Florida and Texas with no state income tax), and they should be above the line deductions instead of itemized deductions. I don’t have enough to itemize, so I have to take the standard deduction. The property tax deduction is going too. I estimate that the GOP’s tax plan will cost my parents 20K of deductions between their property tax and state income tax that will be replaced with the standard deduction. Add another 10K if the exemptions are taken away also

      • Doc Raker

        Basically, we are over taxed.

      • JTBarrett16

        Down with taxes! I need to leave MA for Florida. I need more sun and less taxes in my life. It’s too cold and taxes are too high out here.

      • Seymour Butts

        To be fair, the Democrats are quite capable of serial incompetence as well.

      • Buddy

        Great band name…Serial Incompetence

      • JTBarrett16

        That also applies to Len’s broadcasting capabilities.

    • Eddie Von White

      Starlin is one of those players who has value, but always on another team.

      • Buddy

        Part of the problem with Starlin is his entire offensive value is batting average. He doesn’t walk or hit for power, so if he isn’t hitting well over .300 every year he is basically a giant out machine.

      • Eddie Von White

        A giant space-out machine.

  • JTBarrett16