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Where Do You Stand?

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It’s a quick and easy post today. This team frustrates the mess out of me and has Sherm about ready to blow a gasket. One game we score 150 runs and the other days we score -5.

I ask you here and now. Where do you stand with this team. Go on record now and predict how this season will end.

I’ll start. I still see them winning the division and doing it by at least 2 or 3 games. From there, we face the Nationals and anything goes. I think we get out of that series in five and lose pretty dreadfully in the NLCS. Sorry to be a Debbie downer.

Now it’s your turn. Comment and let’s discuss.

  • Bryzzo1744

    They’ll probably get in but I’m predicting a round 1 loss to Washington

    • Kyle

      Same.

  • Brad Lyerla

    No clue. Anything is possible. My head says that they get in, but get bounced in the first round. But I also know that if they get in, anything can happen.

    So, I am going to be bullish. I have them getting on a run and sweeping Houston in the Series, 4-0. Maddon starts Wade Davis in games 3 and 4 and he goes 4 innings each. Jay is the Series MVP.

    • Dork

      I like it

  • Junior Von White

    I see them getting swept in the NLDS. After that, we will constantly hear how happy we should be because the Cubs made the playoffs in back to back years.

    • There’s the rub. I know this is a sacrilegious thought but since I do feel they’ll be swept in the first round, I almost wish they wouldn’t get in at all so that someone other than us might acknowledge a problem. Otherwise we have to listen all year to “how wonderful they are and just bad luck,” when I feel it’s more “how wonderful they could have been if they were coached better.”

      • Doug S.

        I can totally see that. “Hey – the Cubs just won the NL Central 2 years in a row. Be happy. See you at Cubs Convention.”

      • cap’n realist

        Realism isn’t sacrelige.

      • Jerry in Wisconsin

        That is why it is your name, otherwise you would be Cap’n Sacrelige.

      • Doc Raker

        Cap’n Von Sacrilege

    • Eddie Von White

      You took the words right out of my head. It’s almost as though we think alike. I will never find any solace in anything but first place all the time.

  • Jerry in Wisconsin

    I believe the Cubs will win the division with a 5 – 10 game lead, because the Brewers are our only competition, and they are still a year or so away from being a playoff team. After that this team has been so unpredictable, that I can see them either getting swept out of the playoff in three games, or going on a run and winning the whole thing. They were the same last year in the playoffs, we did not know whether they would get shut out or win three in a row.

  • StartAlmora

    Prediction: Cubs make the world series but only because they get help and the Rockies/DBacks beat the Dodgers in wildcard game. If they run into the Dodgers, they lose, but I see an inter-division team knocking off the Dodgers round 1 because baseball.
    In the World Series – quite frankly I have no idea but I would not feel good facing the Indians agan. Astros may be the best matchup for the Cubs b/c of their less dominant pitching staff

    • Kyle

      Baseball is definitely funny. The Mariners team that won 116 games lost in the ALCS. I wonder if the Dodgers will be smart and give their heavy hitters lots of rest, or if they’ll go for the season win record. If they go for the record, I think they are worn out by the end of the season and get upset in the playoffs.

      • Adam Peters

        The Mariners had three #2 starters and two #3s that year, so they racked up a ton of wins, but when they matched up with the Yankees in the ALCS the Yanks had Andy Pettite, Mike Mussina and El Duque–arguably three #1s. In the one game Seattle won in that series they scored 14 runs.

        You could argue that the Dodgers have better starting pitching than Seattle did when Kershaw is healthy, but Kershaw has sucked in the postseason, and the Dodgers, as a whole, have been chokers in recent years.

  • Karen Hirsh

    I predict the Cubs finish in second place. They may even end up in third place if Maddon continues playing Schwarber and not playing Almora Jr. What kind of coaching is this? And then they get a terrible catcher Riviera (or whatever his name is) and a lousy pitcher Quintana. Such bad judgment this year.

    • Doc Raker

      Bingo! The judgement seems to be very different this year. Defense is no longer valued, quality AB’s are no longer valued. Lackey is valued over other pitchers that are better. The judgement seems different this year.

      • Ben

        Why do you think there has been a change in philosophy this year is it because we won the world series last year?

      • Junior Von White

        I think the people making baseball decisions are too confident in their methods. Last year, they were heavy on the numbers, but still paid a little attention to conventional baseball tactics. After last year, they seem to have just dumped all conventional wisdom and now they are 100% saber metric driven. They need some balance between the two.

      • Doc Raker

        I think the opposite of JVW. I think they are basing it less on numbers and more on emotions of last year. Schwabs is a legend of 2015 and 2016 but his numbers are poor in 2017 and the same in Zobrist. Heyward and Lackey have large contracts so they get preference, if it was about the numbers MMM would of been in the rotation and Lackey in the pen and Heyward would be a defensive replacement, if even needed at all. This year seems more about the World Series core than who really deserves to play based on numbers.

  • Doc Raker

    The Cubs season will end with a loss.

  • Michael S.

    Regular season ends with the Cubs and Brewers tied for the division lead, forcing Game 163, hosted at Wrigley. They win, but the constant back and forth gives Joe little choice on his starting rotation to end the year, and the extra game ensures that the NLDS vs Washington has Chicago starting a lesser pitcher than Washington every game.

    Washington wins NLDS 3 games to none as Bryce Harper does Bryce Harper things to the Cubs’ pitching, while our offense putters with Schwarber (who finishes the year with a .187 batting average, yet an OBP near .300) and Zobrist sticking in the lineup all 3 games, and Tommy La Stella doesn’t even make the postseason roster.

    We head in to the offseason mad as hell, because the things that cost the team so badly, we see and have been on about all year but the same bad decisions get made when it counts. Theo gives some interview to the Sun-Times 2 weeks after the world series ends, talking about how you can’t win them all, and even when you’ve got the best team in the universe sometimes things just don’t work out, you had a lot of regression from guys that are gonna be elite, yatta yatta yatta. Meanwhile, Jake Arrieta has walked into free agency and gets picked up by the Mets (whose rotation has basically gone through the sausage grinder this year) who think they’re going to be competitive, John Lackey gallops off into the sunset, we have 4 starters (if you assume Montgomery is headed for the 2018 rotation) and no idea where we’re going to find a 5th.

    Come spring training, the kool-aid will taste just sweet enough that many of us will keep on drinking it, and 2018 hopefully looks different that 2017 does. Or maybe the kool-aid was just sweetened with lead and we’ve lost our mental faculties.

  • Brad Lyerla

    And Sherm, wherever you are. I am going to the game tonight. So, count it as a loss already.

    • Michael S.

      Alright, got tomorrow’s headline already!

      • cap’n realist

        leave Donna out it.

  • cap’n realist

    agree with Joe…the Cubs will lose the NLCS to the Dodgers. I will refuse to buy a ticket to see them lose at Dodger Stadium, but one of the people i went with last year will offer me a freebie, which i will foolishly take. I will roam the stands holding my pathetically scrawled ‘Fire Len AND Joe AND Bosio, AND Mallee sign, with some passing reference to a blog on the back. Bully Dodger fans will take away my sign because they overtly want ALL of those guys back with the Cubs. Dejected, i will spend the rest of the night at my seat shouting ‘he’s OUT’ every time there’s a close play. Then i’ll get drunk on the bus ride back to Redondo. On Rumchata.

    • Doc Raker

      And eat a bag of cookies on the way home

      • Eddie Von White

        And tell your dad you don’t need him anymore.

      • Jerry in Wisconsin

        and go on a batch cooking spree to get over your disappointment.

      • Bryzzo1744

        Without a shirt

    • Seymour Butts

      Take an Uber.

  • Junior Von White

    Just read an article about how Maddon picks his lineup. He uses a program developed by the organization that is a “cocktail” of stats to produce a number that “regular” fans wouldn’t be able to interpret. I.e. Not BA, OBP, SLG, etc, but maybe a conglomorate of them. He bases his lineup decisions on that number.

    Saber metrics are fun, cool, and useful, but that just seems over complicated. Conventional is conventional for a reason-it has worked for a long long time. Can it be improved? Absolutely. Does it need to be abandoned? NO! I think the Cubs could benefit by hiring some stubborn, old school minded, employee in baseball operations to give a little balance to their approach.

    • Bryzzo1744

      Could you please share that article? I’d like to read this

    • cap’n realist

      This tells me what I already knew. Maddon is aware that he’s got no instincts, and trusts numbers and computers to make decisions for him. The guy has no self confidence, hence all the ‘make the players like me’ garbage…and when things go to shit, he can always blame the software manager and hit the booth with Len. Does anyone believe he was rolling in his motor home all those years because he’s quirky? He knew he was a day from being out of a job. Every coach in pro ball lives that reality. I hate to break this to you all so early, but that’s where this ends…Maddon in the booth talking saber and computer numbers while Len remembers how great the band Technotronic was.

      • Junior Von White

        I don’t disagree, but he won an average of 100 games over the past two years-he has to be at least decent to win that many games; I think he will figure it out. But it might be with a different ball club, which is bad news for the incredibly talented 2017 Cubs, and for us as fans.

        This feels like an experiment, and the 2017 Cubs are not a team to be experimenting on.

      • Jerry in Wisconsin

        I can see that conversation now Joe goes on about some obscure fact Theo created, and Len says “right Joe do you remember the Ongo Bongo concert we went to?”

      • Brad Lyerla

        In the Tribune or SunTimes this morning, I forget which, Maddon is reported to be insisting that the Cubs are having as much fun playing ball this season as last.

        First, that has no credibility.

        Second, and more importantly, why is having fun so important to him? And this question may be a real eye opener for why many followers of this blog disconnect so completely with Maddon’s managerial style. He may think having fun is more important than cracking heads over poor plate discipline or defensive lapses. It’s not that he thinks plate discipline and good defense are not important. Clearly, he thinks they are important. He mentions both frequently this summer. Last year, he attributed a good bit of their success to defense and good at bats (ala’ Zobrist and Coghlan, at times).

        It’s just that he seems to think that the most important thing that he brings to the table is a good vibe for team confidence and chemistry. At least, you could read that into some of what he says to the press. It explains some of what he does, or puts it into a context where it seems less inexplicable.

      • Doc Raker

        I am now clinically depressed with the thought of a future broadcast booth of Maddon Moments and Lame Len, pass the happy pills.

  • King In The Nawth

    Cubs win the division with 89 wins and 4 games over the Brewers, down the Nationals in 5 in the NLDS, beat the Rockies in 6 in the NLCS, and finish the year by losing game 7 of the World Series at Fenway.

    • Brad Lyerla

      That would be fun to see.

  • Adam Peters

    I predict the Cubs will eek out a division championship. On paper I would say the Nats should smoke them in the NLDS, but the Nats have a history of choking in the postseason, so if Lester, Arrieta and Hendricks show up the Cubs could very well beat them.

    And with the Dodgers equal history of choking in the playoffs I really think anything could happen on the NL side this October.

  • Doug S.

    My prediction abilities have played a part in making Vegas what it is. With that in mind – 87 wins and a squeak division clinch 3 days early allowing Joe to rest some guys for the 4 game loss against the Nationals.

  • Colin Kruse

    The Cubs have the potential to surprise in the playoffs. If their pitching rotation can hit a stride, they’d be as strong as any team in the playoffs. Right now, there are a lot of health questions with the Nats, and the Cubs should be able to squeeze by them. The Dodgers have unreal depth on the mound and in the field, but Kershaw is not great in the playoffs, and the Dodgers struggled at Wrigley Field last year whereas the Cubs played really well at Dodger Stadium. I think they could pull it off.

  • Doug S.

    Stating historic tendencies in playoff baseball is interesting and perhaps relevant, but last year that went out the window. It could again this year.

  • Dork

    I think they finally pull away in the division and win it by 7 games. With the remaining schedule I think 90 wins is still in play.

    I think the beat the Nationals because well dusty

    Then I think they loose to the Dodgers because well the dodgers are pretty good

  • james mariani

    California Chrome for 2017. Youtube this horse and watch her finish. Justin Wilson, Fe Pena, Rondine, and Strop will shock the fan base as they carry this team to back2back celebrations in Grant Park