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Cubs / Padres Trade Just Makes Sense

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In case you missed it, the Padres have made a flurry of recent moves to improve their outfield, bringing in Justin Upton, Will Meyers, and Matt Kemp. As a result, they have a bit of a surplus at a position that just so happens to be a need for the Cubs. It just so happens that the Cubs have a surplus at a couple positions that the Padres could use. The deal just seems to make sense for both parties.

Noah mentioned it briefly in the comment section the other day, but it bears repeating here. A deal to send Welington Castillo and /or Luis Valbuena to the Padres to net either Cameron Maybin or Will Venable would work quite nicely for this team. Both guys are coming off less than stellar years, but could provide equal or better production than the hodge podge we’re currently scheduled to run out there in LF. Venable fits the mold a little more than Maybin when it comes to what we’re looking for, which is power potential (in 2013, Venable had 22 HR’s), however he’s also four years older than Maybin.

For the Padres, the move makes a lot of sense given the fact that they are currently slated to trot out Will Middlebrooks at third base and Derek Norris behind the plate. Middlebrooks can’t hit and Norris can’t field.

It’s worth watching over the next few weeks to see if rumors of a deal begin to surface.


In other news, the Cubs saw themselves in a flurry of minor moves today. Here is the rundown.

  • 28 year old outfielder, Adron Chambers was signed to a minor league contract. Chambers comes from the Cardinals organization, where he spent the year in AAA last season, posting a .283 / .351 / .411 slash line in 206 plate appearances.
  • LHP Mike Kickham was claimed off waivers from the Giants. Kickham gives the Cubs another potential lefty bullpen candidate to compete for the open spot in the pen. He’s been a starter in his time in the minors, but so have guys like Tsuyoshi Wada and Felix Doubront, who are also potential candidates. A look at Kickham’s minor league numbers reveal that he gives up a lot of hits. That should come down a little out of the pen given that teams would get fewer looks at him compared to pitching out of the rotation, but that H/9 ratio is still too high.
  • The Orioles have claimed newly acquired catcher, Ryan Lavarnway off of waivers from the Cubs. This one frustrates me a little as I saw Lavarnway as nice catcher depth in a system that is all but void of depth behind the plate. He flashed great power early in his minor league career, but has since seen that trail off. Still, it would have been nice to keep him.
  • The Brewers have claimed Shane Peterson off of waivers from the #Cubs. Peterson, like Lavarnway, were both recently acquired via waivers by the Cubs. After trying to pass them through waivers in an attempt to outright them to the minors, both players were claimed. It sucks, but it’s how the game is played.

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  • Doc Raker

    I just don’t know if I like the name Venable, especially after the name Will. Too many pointy letters with the points pointing down. Plus Venable sounds like an adjective like ‘reasonable’ or ‘dependable’, not like a noun which a name should be. What is Venable’s middle name?

    • Danger.

    • Eddie Von White

      Its more like a question: Will Venable hit today? Will Venable throw someone out today? Will Venable steal a base? Stuff like that.

      • Doc Raker

        Will Venable be a Cub?

      • Seymour Butts

        Will Venable be Venerable?

  • Doc Raker

    I just don’t know if I like the name Venable, especially after the name Will. Too many pointy letters with the points pointing down. Plus Venable sounds like an adjective like ‘reasonable’ or ‘dependable’, not like a noun which a name should be. What is Venable’s middle name?

    • Eddie Von White

      Its more like a question: Will Venable hit today? Will Venable throw someone out today? Will Venable steal a base? Stuff like that.

      • Doc Raker

        Will Venable be a Cub?

  • Gordon Zacks

    So your saying the Padres just acquired Norris and Middlebrooks just to have them? I could possibly see a Valbuena/Middlebrooks platoon, but with Solarte already there it doesnt seem likely. Norris isnt a terrible fielder, and his upside with the bat as well as Federovicz backing up and Hedges in the minors negates any excuse to trade for Castillo. I could see the Cubs going after Venable, not Maybin with that contract (though as a Padres fan i would love you to take him off there hands). Basically im saying this doesnt make sense for the Padres to just lessen one log jam and then add to another.

    • Dork

      Excellent points I forgot about solarte. I don’t recognize the back-up catchers as much though. The memory of KC running all over Norris sticks out to everyone I think.

  • Gordon Zacks

    So your saying the Padres just acquired Norris and Middlebrooks just to have them? I could possibly see a Valbuena/Middlebrooks platoon, but with Solarte already there it doesnt seem likely. Norris isnt a terrible fielder, and his upside with the bat as well as Federovicz backing up and Hedges in the minors negates any excuse to trade for Castillo. I could see the Cubs going after Venable, not Maybin with that contract (though as a Padres fan i would love you to take him off there hands). Basically im saying this doesnt make sense for the Padres to just lessen one log jam and then add to another.

  • Nick Garren

    keep lavarnway and then put EJAX on waivers..

  • Nick Garren

    keep lavarnway and then put EJAX on waivers..

  • Sherm

    This is probably a ridiculous idea, but with the wealth of shortstops in the organization – why not move Castro to a corner outfield position? He is athletic enough to handle the defensive part of the job, and as he matures, I see him developing more power each year. Rather than trade away what could be a great bat for a long time…why not re-position him to strengthen the entire team?

    • Seymour Butts

      Not at all a ridiculous idea. But does he have enough power for that?
      Ridiculous ideas are pretty much the domain of Raker anyway.

      • Sherm

        I just think that as he matures and develops some upper body strength, he could become a 30 homer guy. He’s not “small” in stature – could be a Torii Hunter or Luis Gonzalez that develops a good power stroke in his late 20’s. Not that he’ll be a 50 homer guy, but look at Jose Bautista who’d never hit more than 20 homers until he turned 30. (I could be off by a few homers and years, but it’s close. I didn’t look it up.)

        I like the fact that he can hit pitches out of the strike hard. That’s an overlooked art.

      • Kizzfastfists

        Convert a player that has hit .216/.279/.389 against RHP the last three years to an offensive driven position going into their age 28 season? Why would that be a bad idea? Welly did hit .301/.350/.505 against LHP the last three years. So he could be converted to LF to be a platoon partner with Bryant!
        Don’t tell me that Bryant’s going to be a full time player, because that would totally mess up this idea. So we’re just going to make Bryant a platoon player and move Welly to LF instead of playing Bryant everyday and trading Welly for something useful.

      • Sherm

        Talking about repositioning Castro, not Castillo

      • Kizzfastfists

        I don’t know why I read that as Castillo. I know better than to post before my morning coffee.

      • Kizzfastfists

        Convert a player that has hit .216/.279/.389 against RHP the last three years to an offensive driven position going into their age 28 season? Why would that be a bad idea? Welly did hit .301/.350/.505 against LHP the last three years. So he could be converted to LF to be a platoon partner with Bryant!
        Don’t tell me that Bryant’s going to be a full time player, because that would totally mess up this idea. So we’re just going to make Bryant a platoon player and move Welly to LF instead of playing Bryant everyday and trading Welly for something useful.

    • Eric Grossen

      I think it makes more sense to put Kris Bryant in LF and shift Javier Baez to 3B. Then in 2016 you have:
      C – Miguel Montero (Kyle Schwarber in 2017)
      1B – Anthony Rizzo
      2B – Addison Russell
      3B – Javier Baez
      SS – Starlin Castro
      RF – Jorge Soler
      CF – Arismendy Alcantara or Albert Almora
      LF – Kris Bryant

      (I’m wiping my drool over the potential of that)

    • Doc Raker

      I like the way you think. With all that quality talent I would much rather see the Cubs reposition players verse trading other than Baez, I am not sold on Javier Korey Baez. I don’t know if Castro to LF is the move but thinking along the repositioning lines is not ridiculous at all. The idea that man can melt the polar ice caps is ridiculous, moving a big league short stop to another position is not ridiculous at all. Had we moved Soriano to 3b like I proposed we would have won the World Series in 2007.

      • Eddie Von White

        Wait…you wanted Soriano to play 3B?

      • Sherm

        Soriano would have needed a shield to play third base.

      • Doc Raker

        It made perfect sense EVW. He grew up an infielder and played second base for 1/2 a decade or so in the bigs. At the time he had lost his mobility in left field. Where do you put a player with limited mobility, can field a ground ball and hits for power? Either 1st or 3rd. We already had a 1st baseman. It made perfect sense for Soriano to move to 3b. I even sent a note over to Carrie Muskrat and she posted it on the mailbag as a genius idea that probably would not happen because the Jim Hendry regime was to small minded to think out of the box. Pretty much her exact words if I remember correctly.

    • Doc Raker

      I like the way you think. With all that quality talent I would much rather see the Cubs reposition players verse trading other than Baez, I am not sold on Javier Korey Baez. I don’t know if Castro to LF is the move but thinking along the repositioning lines is not ridiculous at all. The idea that man can melt the polar ice caps is ridiculous, moving a big league short stop to another position is not ridiculous at all. Had we moved Soriano to 3b like I proposed we would have won the World Series in 2007.

      • Eddie Von White

        Wait…you wanted Soriano to play 3B?

      • Sherm

        Soriano would have needed a shield to play third base.

      • Doc Raker

        It made perfect sense EVW. He grew up an infielder and played second base for 1/2 a decade or so in the bigs. At the time he had lost his mobility in left field. Where do you put a player with limited mobility, can field a ground ball and hits for power? Either 1st or 3rd. We already had a 1st baseman. It made perfect sense for Soriano to move to 3b. I even sent a note over to Carrie Muskrat and she posted it on the mailbag as a genius idea that probably would not happen because the Jim Hendry regime was to small minded to think out of the box. Pretty much her exact words if I remember correctly.

  • Doc Raker

    Merry Christmas everyone! I hope everyone has a joyous and happy Christmas including CAPS and his new special friend, all the folks on the Lizzie board and all those to be added. Maybe we can meet CAPS lady friend at the VFTB spring training dinner.

    • Eddie Von White

      Maybe CAPS could get married at the ballpark. That would be a real home run.

  • Doc Raker

    Merry Christmas everyone! I hope everyone has a joyous and happy Christmas including CAPS and his new special friend, all the folks on the Lizzie board and all those to be added. Maybe we can meet CAPS lady friend at the VFTB spring training dinner.

  • Scott A

    How about Baez to LF, maybe even RF. He’s made a lot of errors at SS, has corner OF power, a big arm and athleticism a plenty. I thought Bryant could actually play a bit at 3B?