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November 2011



Morning News: The CBA, Garza, Braun, and Homeless Houseguests

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Strike One:  The MLB released the terms of the new CBA Tuesday.  Jonah Keri wrote an article at Grantland breaking down some of the repercussions the new deal will have for new players entering the league, and how teams that put most of heir money into the draft may need a new plan.  In light of the issues Keri raises, how important to you is parity in baseball?  Check back here Friday for Noah’s analysis of the new CBA.

Strike Two:  Tuesday morning the Tribune’s Phil Rogers put some thought into the rumors that the Cubs are listening to offers for Matt Garza.  To project what kind of haul the Cubs might receive in return for Garza, he looks at the players the Brewers gave up for Zach Grienke, and the handful of players the Cubs surrendered this time last year to bring Garza to Chicago.  Do you want to dangle Garza as trade bait?  Or do you want to add more pitchers without giving up the best one we currently have?

Foul Tip:  White Sox GM Ken Williams’ home was broken into and lived-in, Goldilocks-style, by a homeless man.  The suspect made a substantial mess throughout the house, and borrowed Williams’ clothes, keys, and even his World Series ring to go out on the town.  No one wants to come home to find their home invaded and trashed, but considering Williams’ consistently antagonistic attitude toward the Cubs, I think the story is far more funny than tragic.

Strike Three:  Ryan Braun won the National League MVP over Matt Kemp.  One of the deciding factors appears to have been the success of the Brewers versus the futility of the Dodgers.  How heavily should the team’s success weigh in individual awards like MVP?

  • Eddie Von White

    1. Not at all.
    2. I want Theo to do whatever is necessary to bring a WS championship to the north side.
    Foul – Being personally violated is never funny – even if he is a White Sox guy.
    3. Not sure on the MVP thing – I think winning is important and if you are on a losing team it diminishes the value of the award overall.

  • Mark P.

    Come on–baseball rivalry is confined to baseball–never funny to see someone’s life invaded–let’s try to show some class.

  • Norm

    I agree with EVW except on the MVP. I don’t see how having better teammates should benefit Braun.
    If my team needs a CF or a LF and Braun and Kemp are both available, I take Kemp because he does everything Braun does, but in a more important position.

  • Buddy

    Well said Norm. Braun wasn’t an awful choice, but Kemp should have been MVP. A team’s record shouldn’t impact the MVP vote. As written, the MVP criteria simply states “the league’s most outstanding player.” If they want the award to go to “an All Star level player on a winning team,” change the criteria.

  • Eddie Von White

    Or they could change the name of the award to “The Most Outstanding Player Award.” That doesn’t sound near as cool as Most Valuable though.


    1. I’m just happy we’re going to have baseball for the next 5 years in light of these lockouts in the NBA and NFL
    2. We’re going to trade Garza after just 1 year? Theo and gang may get the benefit of the doubt, but they better not abuse it and start acting like the King of England. If Carmine tells them he will get lousy by the time the Cubs are good again, then I am all for unloading him
    Foul – I bet he’d be a better GM than Kenny Williams. But that is just awful.
    3. I thought Fielder and Braun should have been co-MVPs, the way they carried the Brewers.

  • Chuck

    Strike 1: On the surface it seems that the new deal will be bad for small market/low revenue teams. However, it may work out for them in the long run. The loss of draft picks for signing free agents will hurt (to me it never made sense) them but having big-spending teams lose a slew of draft picks will help them a lot. It all depends on where the “slot” values are. If MLB raises the slot prices by quite a bit, it will help small market teams.
    Strike 2: I have said it before and I will say it again. When your team is this bad, everyone should be available for a trade. Everyone.
    Strike 3: The award is the Most Valuable Player award not Best Player award. Because of this, I think a player who puts up some of the best numbers in the league on a team that makes the playoffs is more valuable than a player who puts up slightly better numbers for a team that was bad. That being said, if a player was clearly head and shoulders above the rest of the league he should get MVP. Think Bonds in his roids-fueled heyday. When the stats are close, the “other stuff” should matter because that is where some of the value lies.

  • Norm

    “The award is the Most Valuable Player award not Best Player award”

    Chuck, when people say this, and it gets said a lot, do they ever take the players salary into account? If two players have the same exact stats, but one makes $1M and the other makes $15M, isn’t that $1M player more “valuable”?

  • Buddy

    As written, the MVP criteria is basically the best player award. “Most outstanding” to be more accurate. To me, it’s always been pretty simple. You can’t be more valuable to the league than being the best player in the league. Bautista was the best player in the AL, so to me he is the most valuable/most outstanding. Same for Kemp in the NL. However, I thought Clear Pepsi was a good idea, so what do I know?

  • Seymour Butts

    Strike 2: I got a chuckle when you said “the Tribune’s Phil Rogers put some thought into…” This seems an unlikely scenario.
    Strike 3: Norm has an excellent point. The MVP should be given to the player making the league minimum who has the best numbers that year. That would mess with their cornflakes.

  • I’ll weigh in. I feel that the MVP should be awarded to the fastest player making league minimum. I also think that they should let said MVP hit from second. I also think that I will start calling Campana “Fast Tony.”

  • Jeremiah Johnson

    I’ll grant you that perhaps I was a tad cavalier regarding the home invasion, but the image of the suspect returning to Williams’ home dressed in his clothes and fur coat, sporting his World Series ring, still makes me chuckle. Obviously it wouldn’t be funny if there was anything more than some cosmetic damage and disruption.

    The hyper-subjective of the instructions for MVP voting is partly to blame–in essence, each voter has to determine for themselves what “value” means. I’d rather see those awards in the hands of players or managers–I think they’d have a more unified, objective idea of what determines on-the-field value.

    Glad you liked that Seymour. Rogers isn’t nearly the worst guy at the Trib, but some days it seems like he’s trying hard to be.

  • chris in illinois

    Kemp was clearly the MVP, but I’m impressed that the voters had the 1-2 guys in the 1-2 slots even if they were reversed. The MVP is an individual award. End of story.
    Winning matters, but that’s why we have a World Champ.