Roundtable: Trade Deadline Reaction
Now that the non-waiver trade deadline has passed. How do you feel about what Jim Hendry did or didn’t do?
As of this writing (9 am Sunday), the Cubs have only made one deadline deal–the Fukudome trade. As Norm said earlier in the week, Fukudome by himself can only bring so much back in return. While that is certainly true, the Cubs got absolutely nothing from the Indians. It’s too bad the Cubs didn’t package Fukudome with some combination of players that could have included Pena, Byrd, one of the relievers, Dempster (if he’d accept a trade), Baker, and/or Reed Johnson. Sending Fukudome and two or three useful players to a contending team could have brought back a nice collection of young talent. Instead, the Cubs got two warm bodies. Hopefully there’s a better deal later in the day. ~ Buddy
I am not impressed by Jim Hendry’s acquisitons, or lack thereof. It was good to get rid of Fukudome and release some dead weight off the books, but the prospects we acquired don’t seem very promising. Abreu is basically a little Soriano at the plate, and Carlton’s numbers are just as bad as the rest of our bullpen is now. We don’t need more pitching – we need good pitching.
There were teams interested in a few of our players, but Hendry didn’t want to move them. Jeff Baker is most likely at his most valuable point in his career, and Hendry has deemed him “untouchable”. Ridiculous. Teams also showed interest in Pena, Byrd, and even Marmol. Maybe the offers weren’t exactly what Hendry wanted, but everyone knows that his track record is less than adequate.
There is a lot of dead weight on our roster that needs to go, but the problem is that either those players don’t want to go (Ramirez/Wood) or Hendry doesn’t want them to go (Baker/Marmol). Why pass up on opportunities to better your team? Because the players we missed opportunities to trade are not players that a winning team will be built around.
People are getting tired of Hendry. If he is trying to gain favor in the eyes of Cubs fans, he is not doing a very good job of it. ~ Katie
I was happy with the deal that sent Kosuke Fukudome to the Indians, but I was also hoping for more activity. The Cubs received phone calls (depending on which reports are accurate) about Carlos Pena, Marlon Byrd and even Carlos Marmol, but they did not want to part ways with any of them. Byrd’s value was pretty high, so I would have liked to see them be more willing to let him go. Pena is in the last year of his contract so there was little sense in the Cubs keeping him the rest of this year. They could have resigned him on the free agent market after trading him. He’ll probably be a Type B free agent, so it may have cost the Cubs a draft pick, but they could have netted a prospect of that quality from the Pirates along with saving some dough in a trade. I am surprised by how many Cubs fans are criticizing Jim Hendry for the Kosuke trade. I was not expecting much back for the overpaid outfielder. At least the Cubs ended up with two minor leaguers and saved a small amount of cash in the deal. It also allows Tyler Colvin to receive regular playing time at the big league level. The fire sale I was hoping for did not occur, so overall I am a little bit disappointed with just one trade. Hopefully the Cubs are involved in some waiver deals during the month of August. ~ Brandon
How did the Cubs do at this year’s trade deadline? Terrible. But let’s remember there is still one more month for deals to be made, so the ‘terrible’ might upgrade to ‘bad’.
Moving Fukudome was a no-brainer in my opinion. What would you rather have: Two months of Fukudome at $4,750,000 or six years of two minor leaguers for $4,000,000? There is always a chance, no matter how slim, that one of those players figures it out in those six years. Fukudome gives you nothing after the season is over.
Carlos Pena should’ve been dealt too, but will surely clear waivers, so there is a chance that he’s still traded. Supposedly Pittsburgh was his biggest suitor and they acquired Derrek Lee for a Single A 1B that wasn’t in Pitt’s top 30. Arizona was another rumor, but they didn’t make a move for any 1B, so who knows how legit that rumor was. Check back in 30 days in regards to a Pena trade.
Marlon Byrd was supposedly asked about and rejected by Hendry. For what? We have no idea. The market was flooded with centerfielders and the return Houston got for Michael Bourn was rather disappointing. Like Pena, there is a chance Byrd clears waivers and is moved in August, but I think the progress of Brett Jackson might be the deciding factor. ~ Norm
I’ll grade Jim Hendry at a gracious F+ for this trade deadline. Over the course of July, the list of players that we were willing to trade grew shorter and shorter. When the deadline passed we’d only unloaded Fukudome; the best you can say about that deal is that it wasn’t horrible. It wasn’t great either – and it didn’t further our goal of improving for 2012 (no significant extra cash was made available, no players who will contribute in 2012 were added).
And that’s the ultimate problem, we won’t be better next year. Standing pat at the deadline guaranteed that; with players like Byrd, Pena, and Ramirez who were all drawing serious interest as late as Saturday, it’s unbelievable that we wouldn’t even engage in substantive talks. Hendry is now on record as saying that for 2012 we need to “rebuild” not “overhaul.” Even if you agree with Hendry, he has shown that he lacks the fundamental courage to even rebuild.
The message he sent with the passage of the trade deadline is that he is STRONGLY considering keeping Ramirez AND Pena (which won’t be cheap). If that happens, our payroll will be basically the same, our team will be basically the same – we will suck again, and rebuilding won’t have started. If you assume that Ramirez and Pena are both Cubs in 2012, we will almost surely return 7 of 8 position players and 4 of 5 starting pitchers. That’s NOT rebuilding. With several teams very interested in some Cub veterans, we choose to not even answer the phone. ~ Jedi
I don’t see how anyone can give Hendry a passing grade for his trade deadline inactivity. Despite reported interest by a number of contending teams, Hendry chose to hold on to all his overpriced veterans for the last two months of the current Cubs death-spiral. In fact, if the rumors are true, Hendry’s got plans for Pena, Barney, Castro, Ramirez, AND Baker–that’s right, five infielders for four spots. Who needs to trade?
Now I won’t pretend to know what kind of prospects–if any–we could have brought back to the team. But even if all he could accomplish is a salary dump here and there, why didn’t Hendry do anything? The one deal he did make was essentially just a trade for the sake of making a trade–it didn’t save any real money, and it didn’t bring back any significant prospective talent.
It really seems like Hendry believes this team, as it’s currently constructed, is capable of winning–or that we’re at most a couple pieces away. If that’s the case, he’s delusional, and it’s probably best he didn’t make any deals. We might have unloaded Pena and Byrd for a mixed case of Snapple and a used bouncy castle. ~ Jeremiah
How do I feel about what Jim Hendry did or didn t do before the MLB non-waiver trade deadline? Well, he didn t commit seppuku, which is the only honorable way out for him at this point.
I did have numerous reactions to the Fukudome trade. My first reaction was to realize that A bad Cubs team just got worse! My second reaction is that I m happy for Kosuke – he got outta Dodge. My third reaction is to recommend a change of slogan for this Ricketts Family Trust-owned organization: from A Way Of Life with a waving W flag, to Putting Lipstick On A Pig Since 2009 . ~ Dave